2015 Browns Offseason Thread

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Aug 14, 2015 1:53pm
sleeper;1745853 wrote:Why afraid to label him a bust? I think he already is and I don't expect that to change.
Just think it's too early to label him a bust. It's not too early to say he's very underwhelming for where he was drafted, however.
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Aug 14, 2015 2:24pm
SportsAndLady;1745862 wrote:Just think it's too early to label him a bust. It's not too early to say he's very underwhelming for where he was drafted, however.
If he's on the team by season's end I'd be surprised. He's a bust.
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Aug 14, 2015 6:28pm
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Aug 15, 2015 1:19pm
like_that;1745858 wrote:He was the worst graded defender on the Browns defense FYI.
Hopefully he is only the slot/nickel corner this year and Haden and Williams see the field every game. Actually, I'd rather K'W as the nickel and Gilbert as the dime.
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Aug 15, 2015 1:24pm
I am obviously on a PFF kick since I just got the account, but here is another interesting stat.

Last year Hoyer's QB rating on the play action was 99.7, which was good for top 11 in the league. When there wasn't a play action, his rating dropped to 67.2, which was good for 2nd to last (to blake bortles). Just goes to show that this team needs to be able to run the ball.
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Aug 15, 2015 5:21pm
like_that;1745924 wrote:I am obviously on a PFF kick since I just got the account, but here is another interesting stat.

Last year Hoyer's QB rating on the play action was 99.7, which was good for top 11 in the league. When there wasn't a play action, his rating dropped to 67.2, which was good for 2nd to last (to blake bortles). Just goes to show that this team needs to be able to run the ball.
Remember when BR said the Jags are in much better shape than the Browns because they are set at quarterback because of blake bortles lulz.
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Aug 16, 2015 3:14pm
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/8/16/9161433/trent-richardson-probably-had-a-perfectly-good-reason-for-running

In the spirit of the Brandon Weeden video...Raider fans have had enough of Richardson already.
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Aug 17, 2015 2:46am
HAHA.....well in Trent Richardson's defense, it is only preseason, and he is just you know, getting used to the jersey color....again....of the team he will be sitting the bench for.....again.....
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Aug 17, 2015 11:43am
Go4alOngbOmB;1746072 wrote:HAHA.....well in Trent Richardson's defense, it is only preseason, and he is just you know, getting used to the jersey color....again....of the team he will be sitting the bench for.....again.....
Unlikely he will be sitting the bench... More like sitting on his couch, because he's going to get cut.
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Aug 18, 2015 10:45pm
Just think, we could have had Mike Evans. Instead we have a shitty DB
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Aug 18, 2015 10:52pm
shook_17;1746337 wrote:Just think, we could have had Mike Evans. Instead we have a shitty DB
I'd have preferred us take Mack at 4.
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Aug 19, 2015 8:52am
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Aug 19, 2015 9:52am
like_that;1746353 wrote:https://vine.co/v/epYlXDdbVVu
YES.
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Aug 19, 2015 4:11pm
Would've liked to see him shed the blocker and make the TFL. But, dude is a monster.
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Aug 20, 2015 8:29pm
Run defense looks solid. Tramon Williams is trash tonight though.
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Aug 20, 2015 8:45pm
This game seems like it's running so low. So many injuries and timeouts.

And the offenses are iffy too.
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Aug 20, 2015 8:46pm
This offense looks so bad. Just no weapons anywhere.
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Aug 20, 2015 8:48pm
Shocker to no one, but McCown is playing like trash.
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Aug 20, 2015 9:01pm
This is an awful game
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Aug 20, 2015 9:19pm
I wonder why the Browns haven't kicked the tires on Evan Mathis. Seems like he'd be a quality add?
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Aug 20, 2015 10:14pm
At this point, Manziel needs to get some reps with the 1st team next week. See how he looks against a starting defense.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:16pm
Week 1 starters gotta be Johnny. Neither of our QBs are any good but at least Johnny has a little bit of excitement.

The only excitement Mccown brings is maybe a 6 yard out completion.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:21pm
Agreed. I've thought that since they signed McCown. Unless he came in and played like he did that year in Chicago, you've gotta give Manziel the year. He's been outstanding so far this pre-season, against scrubs and grocery baggers, but solid nonetheless.
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Aug 20, 2015 10:22pm
This offense lacks creativity. Maybe it's just preseason but so fucking predictable tonight. #StartManziel
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Aug 20, 2015 10:23pm
McClown is just your typical Browns QB of the last 15 years. Not much excitement, can't win a game, was only signed because they had no one else to sign and had to get someone.

I'll pass