2015 Browns Offseason Thread

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like_that
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Aug 11, 2015 2:31pm
Not sure if I would rather face smith or Fitzpatrick.
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Aug 11, 2015 3:20pm
like_that;1745387 wrote:Not sure if I would rather face smith or Fitzpatrick.
I'd consider it a wash.
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Aug 11, 2015 3:27pm
like_that;1745387 wrote:Not sure if I would rather face smith or Fitzpatrick.
Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich kinda thing.
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Aug 11, 2015 3:54pm
So BR, are you not taking my bet of more than three wins?
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BR1986FB
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Aug 11, 2015 5:31pm
DeyDurkie5;1745395 wrote:So BR, are you not taking my bet of more than three wins?
Are you fucking kidding me with that p#ssy shit? I'm not the one who gets on here EVERY year yelling from the mountain tops "10 WINS, PLAYOFFS BABY!" I simply stated I think they will win 3 games...not a "lock", not a "guarantee" like you throw out EVERY damn year. I called you on it and you passed.
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Aug 11, 2015 5:50pm
BR1986FB;1745413 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me with that p#ssy shit? I'm not the one who gets on here EVERY year yelling from the mountain tops "10 WINS, PLAYOFFS BABY!" I simply stated I think they will win 3 games...not a "lock", not a "guarantee" like you throw out EVERY damn year. I called you on it and you passed.
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Aug 11, 2015 6:31pm
BR1986FB;1745413 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me with that p#ssy shit? I'm not the one who gets on here EVERY year yelling from the mountain tops "10 WINS, PLAYOFFS BABY!" I simply stated I think they will win 3 games...not a "lock", not a "guarantee" like you throw out EVERY damn year. I called you on it and you passed.

Well I'm not Durkie and I also told you to put your money where your mouth is. Like I told you which you ignored: $20 they win more than 3 games and I'll give you 4/1 odds.
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Aug 11, 2015 8:24pm
BR1986FB;1745413 wrote:Are you fucking kidding me with that p#ssy shit? I'm not the one who gets on here EVERY year yelling from the mountain tops "10 WINS, PLAYOFFS BABY!" I simply stated I think they will win 3 games...not a "lock", not a "guarantee" like you throw out EVERY damn year. I called you on it and you passed.
For one, I said I would bet a hundred they made the playoffs. You said 1000, I said hundred. You didn't respond back. So I didn't pass at all. And two, you stated it as fact and I simply said I'll bet you 1000 they get more than 3 wins. A simple no would've been fine on the bet, but I guess roids know no logic.
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Aug 11, 2015 8:41pm
DeyDurkie5;1745440 wrote:For one, I said I would bet a hundred they made the playoffs. You said 1000, I said hundred. You didn't respond back. So I didn't pass at all. And two, you stated it as fact and I simply said I'll bet you 1000 they get more than 3 wins. A simple no would've been fine on the bet, but I guess roids know no logic.
Please, show me the quote where I stated as "fact" that the Browns would only win 3 games. That's my opinion that they will only win 3, not fact. There are too many variables (QB, RB, pass rush, will they stop the run, etc) to think it's a "lock" that they will make the playoffs which you say EVERY year with no substance behind it.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 11, 2015 8:44pm
He's a turd but this wouldn't stun me. They have a bunch of RB's but do they? From what Montgomery is saying, the job is there for the taking and there's no "alpha" to step up and grab it by the throat. I don't want Rice on this team but I bet he'd come in hungry, with a chip on his shoulder.
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Aug 11, 2015 9:03pm
BR1986FB;1745442 wrote:He's a turd but this wouldn't stun me. They have a bunch of RB's but do they? From what Montgomery is saying, the job is there for the taking and there's no "alpha" to step up and grab it by the throat. I don't want Rice on this team but I bet he'd come in hungry, with a chip on his shoulder.
Ray Rice sucks. He averaged like 2.2 ypc the last season he played. All of a sudden after one year away from football he is going to imrpove on that? I will pass on the media shit storm and stick with the current RBs we have.
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Aug 12, 2015 12:27am
BR1986FB;1745441 wrote:Please, show me the quote where I stated as "fact" that the Browns would only win 3 games. That's my opinion that they will only win 3, not fact. There are too many variables (QB, RB, pass rush, will they stop the run, etc) to think it's a "lock" that they will make the playoffs which you say EVERY year with no substance behind it.
I'm sorry you probably posted it from an article and acted like it was truth. My bad.


Even so, want to take that bet?
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BR1986FB
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Aug 12, 2015 7:51am
DeyDurkie5;1745466 wrote:I'm sorry you probably posted it from an article and acted like it was truth. My bad.
So, as usual, you have nothing and are bringing nothing of substance to the table...."PLAYOFFS, BABY....IT'S A LOCK!" :rolleyes:
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Aug 12, 2015 7:54am
like_that;1745445 wrote:Ray Rice sucks. He averaged like 2.2 ypc the last season he played. All of a sudden after one year away from football he is going to imrpove on that? I will pass on the media shit storm and stick with the current RBs we have.
No question he sucks and I don't want him. I just think that, with some, it's a forgone conclusion that this is going to be a successful running team. I don't know that they have the running back on the roster to have a dominant rushing attack. Crow & West have shown flashes but nothing consistent. Along with the QB situation, this is part of the reason for my apprehension toward them having a successful season in the win column.

Sadly, if Rice is signed, it won't be the first time Browns fans have had to back a team with a woman beater (Jim Brown) on it.
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Aug 12, 2015 2:29pm
BR1986FB;1745477 wrote:So, as usual, you have nothing and are bringing nothing of substance to the table...."PLAYOFFS, BABY....IT'S A LOCK!" :rolleyes:
You said 3 wins? I stand by it. So to me that's saying I think it's a lock that they will win 3 games. Hence why I said I'll take that bet. If you don't want to bet, then so be it. I guess you don't think it will be 3 wins then?
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Aug 12, 2015 3:55pm
You guys should just meet in the middle. One thinks three games one thinks playoffs. So how about if they have a winning or losing season. If they make the playoffs it's going to be with a winning record.
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Aug 12, 2015 10:28pm
sportchampps;1745586 wrote:You guys should just meet in the middle. One thinks three games one thinks playoffs. So how about if they have a winning or losing season. If they make the playoffs it's going to be with a winning record.
Br won't bet me. He would've said yes by now to one of the two bets we talked about.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 13, 2015 7:46am
Ok, boys....what are you looking for tonight?

I'm looking for:

On defense:

A) Does Danny Shelton do his job and command two blockers

B) the revamped D-Line and their role in providing lanes for the LB's to make tackles

C) Scott Soloman

D) the overall run defense

On offense:

A) Their ability to run the ball

B) the RB's....will one step up?

C) Manziel's ability to stand in the pocket and let the play develop. If he gets happy feet and takes off too early, he hasn't developed much.

Overall:

No significant injuries
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Aug 13, 2015 8:37am
No injuries

Interested to see what JFF looks like.

Glad to see Browns football back.
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Aug 13, 2015 9:05am
No injuries, see how our front 7 is against the rush, I'd like to see Jff against the ones, and I'd like to see how our own rushing attack is.
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Aug 13, 2015 9:33am
Well we invested heavily in "Stop the run, run the ball" and still don't have a QB; so I'd be happy with losing by less than 4 TDs.
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Aug 13, 2015 9:41am
sleeper;1745657 wrote:Well we invested heavily in "Stop the run, run the ball" and still don't have a QB; so I'd be happy with losing by less than 4 TDs.
Because we lost so many games last year by 4 tds...
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BR1986FB
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Aug 13, 2015 9:43am
sleeper;1745657 wrote:Well we invested heavily in "Stop the run, run the ball" and still don't have a QB; so I'd be happy with losing by less than 4 TDs.
Stopping the run will be very important but, with it being a "pass first" league, the pass rush may be just as important, if not more so.

Couldn't care about whether they win or lose (in preseason) and frankly couldn't care about what McCown does. He's not going to turn into Andrew Luck overnight.

Unfortunately, we're going to have to deal with what they have at QB until they are drafting high enough to get a legit one.
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BR1986FB
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Aug 13, 2015 9:45am
like_that;1745660 wrote:Because we lost so many games last year by 4 tds...
Yeah, I don't see them getting blown out by 4 TD's in many/any games. I don't think the offense will score a lot of points but I don't think the defense will be a sieve either.