Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Aug 13, 2015 9:51am
Over the last 5 years, only 12 teams (out of 160) have won 3 or less games. The Browns won 7 last year. Whether you think they are better or worse than in 2014, is up for debate, but factoring in historical data for 3-win or less seasons combined with the performance of the 2014 Browns, I'd set the odds of the Browns winning 3 or less games at about 20:1.
So if I'm BR, I'd take a bet given those odds. Something like he bets $5 to win $100. Otherwise, he'd be a fool to bet at 4:1 odds even if he truly believes that will be the result.
So if I'm BR, I'd take a bet given those odds. Something like he bets $5 to win $100. Otherwise, he'd be a fool to bet at 4:1 odds even if he truly believes that will be the result.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 13, 2015 10:38am
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 13, 2015 10:55am
Let's see...the Browns won 7 games last year with the 2nd ranked pass defense and the 31st ranked run defense and you think pass rush could be more important than run stopping?BR1986FB;1745663 wrote:Stopping the run will be very important but, with it being a "pass first" league, the pass rush may be just as important, if not more so.
LOL
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 13, 2015 11:05am
If their run defense was 2nd ranked I'd bet my ass their pass defense wouldn't be 2nd. You, being a "numbers" guy, should know that stats can be misleading.lhslep134;1745677 wrote:Let's see...the Browns won 7 games last year with the 2nd ranked pass defense and the 31st ranked run defense and you think pass rush could be more important than run stopping?
LOL
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 13, 2015 11:11am
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdefBR1986FB;1745679 wrote:If their run defense was 2nd ranked I'd bet my ass their pass defense wouldn't be 2nd. You, being a "numbers" guy, should know that stats can be misleading.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/glossary
Figure out what DVOA is, figure out why it's the most valuable metric for analysis in football, and then re-evaluate your response.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Aug 13, 2015 11:11am
Disappointed TP is out. Looking forward to the defense more than the offense, which will probably be the case all year.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 5:25pm
I just signed up for a PFF account. I am not sure why I didn't sign up before, this site was already awesome, but the premium content takes it to another level.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 13, 2015 7:14pm
God iggy is pathetic. What a sad sad life he lives.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 7:57pm
Game streaming anywhere tonight?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 13, 2015 8:03pm
The part about starting Manziel is delusional.SportsAndLady;1745741 wrote:God iggy is pathetic. What a sad sad life he lives.
Realistically, it would probably be the right thing to do but no coach in their right mind is going to do it if their job could be in jeopardy. If Pettine starts JFF and they win two games, looking horrible in the process, Haslam is still probably going to can him, regardless of his "we're not blowing it up" statement. At least with McCown, if they win 7 or 8, Pettine buys himself more time.
As fans, many would prefer starting JFF to see if has it or if he's terrible, you have your draft pick, but a head coach isn't going to think that way (usually).
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 8:14pm
Gilbert got burnt already, hopefully just jitters.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 13, 2015 8:24pm
I disagree with that. Pettine is going to start whoever is better. He isn't thinking, "Well i can win 7 games with McCown and save me a year or two, or I can start JFF who sucks and win 3 games and get fired." He's just going to think, "I'm starting McCown, hes better."BR1986FB;1745749 wrote:The part about starting Manziel is delusional.
Realistically, it would probably be the right thing to do but no coach in their right mind is going to do it if their job could be in jeopardy. If Pettine starts JFF and they win two games, looking horrible in the process, Haslam is still probably going to can him, regardless of his "we're not blowing it up" statement. At least with McCown, if they win 7 or 8, Pettine buys himself more time.
As fans, many would prefer starting JFF to see if has it or if he's terrible, you have your draft pick, but a head coach isn't going to think that way (usually).
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 8:24pm
McCown 5/5 with a TD on the first drive.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 13, 2015 8:24pm
Hell of a first drive. McCown looked sharp.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 8:32pm
Defense looks fine, minus Gilbert.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 8:34pm
Gilbert looks to be in Mid Season form....
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 8:37pm
What is Gipsons status?
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Aug 13, 2015 8:38pm
Gilbert going to be a bust?
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 8:38pm
Smh never mind I found him.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 8:56pm
Manziel with the rushing TD.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 8:56pm
He looked a lot smarter with his feet those two series.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 13, 2015 8:57pm
Yes he has.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Aug 13, 2015 9:00pm
It is good to have football back.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Aug 13, 2015 9:04pm
I like the all white jerseys
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 13, 2015 9:11pm
Gilbert is a boner. What a wasted pick. Shelton on the other hand is going to be a beast