Mulva;1678283 wrote:You mean like being 10-4 as a starting QB?

Footwedge;1678285 wrote:Yet another brilliant retort by our overeaters anonymous resident. Exactly how many times did Manziel play with the first team offensive line, wide receivers? Weren't you the one Sunday calling for McGoo's head?

Go back to sucking on Hoyer's nutsack. Rejoin the club of loving the most innacurate quarterback in the NFL.

jmog;1678294 wrote:No, moron, you are the one that in the same post that talked about his scrambling and then stated he would get 75+ yards a game. So, you are the one that connected scrambling with rushing yards.

Once you realized how stupid you sounded you changed your stance and started talking about Tarkenton.

BR1986FB;1678302 wrote:I want to see Manziel get some packages in the red zone, where Hoyer pisses down his leg. I think Hoyer is fine between the 20's. He just sucks ass when they get down close. Utilize Manziel's athleticism down close. And that doesn't mean he has to throw the ball either. That read option would keep a lot of teams guessing inside the 20.

Truth be told, I don't think their QB of the future is on this roster. I think this is the closest they will be to sniffing the playoffs in awhile and I'd like to see them get in, Alzheimers.

Footwedge;1678296 wrote:But, but, but FW...10-4!...10-4!. LMAO. Just like clockwork. the 10 and 4 clubbers are out in full force. How about 9-2!...9-2! if the best quarterback on the team were playing against the weakest schedule in all of football. Yes 9-2 and jockeying for position of home field throughout.

Footwedge;1678307 wrote:So....you play the guy with the stronger arm, MUCH more accurate arm, the ability to run for 75 yards plus per game, and you will lose 4 more games....got it. Is there a sale going on regarding dumb pill you want to share? .

Footwedge;1678307 wrote: I have always compared Manziel's ability to Tarkenton. If Manziel wants to gain 75 yards running down the field, then he'll do it if that is what it takes to win a particular game That's what winners do. They do what it takes to win. As a 19 year old, he won the Heisman and shredded the eventual natinalk champs in Tuscaloosa with both his arm and his feet. I never said he would AVERAGE 75 yards a game. It was your inference not mine. And then you went on your child's rant about Manziel and his inability to scramble. Now tell me again how many yards Vick has run for. LMAO.

jmog;1678286 wrote:You keep harping on many things, but 2 in particular are rather funny.

1. Hoyer's completion percentage is the worst in the NFL
2. Manziel outperformed Hoyer in the preseason in every game.

Right now Hoyer is at 56% completion, which you are correct, is the worst of all "qualifying" QBs this season.
Hoyer's preseason completion percentage was 54.5, so he is slightly better right now than preseason, but right at where we thought he was.

What was Manziel's preseason completion percentage oh Failwedge? 50.8%...that's right, nearly 4 points lower than Hoyer's. So, you are rather incorrect on the "he outplayed Hoyer in all 4 games" especially since you like to pile on the completion percentage stats.

Keep showing how much of a moron you are and keep touting college stats. If you want to tout college stats I would bet that Tebow and Troy Smith were just as good or better college stats than Manziel, and how did they pan out in the NFL? College stats mean nearly zero in the NFL, especially at QB.

Do I think Manziel will be terrible? Absolutely not, he needs time to learn the system and how to play QB effectively in the NFL.

Anyone who understands how the NFL works, especially at the QB position, knows we'd be lucky to be .500 with Manziel, but would probably be worse.

Al Bundy;1678320 wrote:from post #510


from post #676

BR1986FB;1678317 wrote:I was talking about the future QB who was "good enough" to get them to where they want to be (championship caliber). Manziel may end up decent but I think his shelf life for the league won't be long.

Mulva;1678316 wrote:9-2 is an opinion. 10-4 is a fact. You can't debate it. That's your rule, not mine.

Footwedge;1678325 wrote:Listen up lardo...Tarkenton was 5' nothing and weighed about a buck fitty. He lasted close to 2 decades. The great Merlin Olsen once said ":I hate Tarkenton" Why? Because he couldn't catch the sonaofabitch.

BR1986FB;1678272 wrote:Yeah, Booms' partner, Kiley, was trying to point out that it wasn't a "good idea" for Manziel to be out at 2:30am in the morning ("nothing good happens after midnight, etc") and Booms response? Hoyer's completion percentage. Booms is such a worthless turd.

Footwedge;1678325 wrote:Listen up lardo...Tarkenton was 5' nothing and weighed about a buck fitty.

BR1986FB;1678302 wrote:
Truth be told, I don't think their QB of the future is on this roster. I think this is the closest they will be to sniffing the playoffs in awhile and I'd like to see them get in, Alzheimers.

Footwedge;1678335 wrote:Johhny Football, a 21 year old adult was up after midnight? Oh my God. Of my God. Move over Ray Rice... we have a much more serious development brewing here.

thavoice;1678393 wrote:If he hadnt had his goons beat up some guy it woulda been no big deal and no one woulda known

BR1986FB;1678402 wrote:I'm calling bullshit on this story. The guy who got the shit kicked out of him is saying he "wanted a hug" yet never took a step toward Manziel and Manziel's buddy kicked the shit out of him? If that happens to you or I we say "no thanks, but I appreciate it bro" or some shit like that. We don't just have some guy jump a fan for no reason. There's way more to this than is being revealed.

My whole issue with him being out later is that he's a target. Just like I've said about Josh Gordon. Stay away from the situations where weed is available, if it is truly "second hand" LOL, and you'll be fine. If Manziel is in long before 2:30, he's gonna have less chance to encounter late night drunk douchebags. It's not that I think Manziel's a troublemaker or out there looking for trouble.

Footwedge;1678321 wrote:50% completion rate is waybetter than 41% put up by Mr. McGoo is it not Einstein? Secondly, Manziel AT THAT TIME was as green as can possibly be...having never played a down in the NFL...Inspite of that...he still outperformed the undrafted, thrice cut free agent out of Michigan State. Pretty remarkable if you ask me.

As for your "lucky to be 500 with Manziel this year...you sir are an idiot. When you play the guy with the stronger arm, the MUCH more accurate arm, and a guy that can move sticks with his feet, you will win more games...not less. It's not a difficult concept to pick up for competent people.

Cue the "but...but...but FW...what about all the other rookie quarterbacks." LMAO

BRF;1678006 wrote:Fran Tarkenton was very very good. I can see how Manziel could be compared to him.

Mr. Magoo was a funny cartoon character about a near-sighted guy who lucked out everywhere he walked or drove.