Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 15, 2015 5:52pm
Regardless of chemistry, should be no real reason why the heat couldn't win 38 games with lineup. Especially with a healthy by his standards Wade.
I don't think he's the worst coach in the NBA by any stretch, but he's definitely bottom half. He was before LBJ carried him for 4 years, and he's right back there once he left.
I don't think he's the worst coach in the NBA by any stretch, but he's definitely bottom half. He was before LBJ carried him for 4 years, and he's right back there once he left.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 15, 2015 6:09pm
Not all of it for that record. Being under .500 with KI is never acceptable IMO. It could be KI and a bunch of bums (Heat players) and they should be top team in the east.robj55;1721820 wrote:Neither Love or Lebron were healthy, you don't think that was an issue?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 6:11pm
I posted a link to the list of coaches last page. The only way you could say he's definitely bottom half is if you think there are 15 coaches unequivocally better than Spoelstra. I'm very curious to see a list of at least the 15 you think are better.HighRoller74;1721823 wrote:
I don't think he's the worst coach in the NBA by any stretch, but he's definitely bottom half.
Looking at the list, I gave my rankings and I think Spoelstra is definitely top half and arguably fringe top 10. You could make an argument for him anywhere from 10-15ish so we're not that far off, I just don't think he's definitely bottom 15 because I can't find 15 coaches that I find unequivocally better.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 6:12pm
Well he has never won by himself so not sure why you think that? They are like 2-10 this year without Lebron, pretty sure KI played in most of those.Commander of Awesome;1721827 wrote:Not all of it for that record. Being under .500 with KI is never acceptable IMO. It could be KI and a bunch of bums (Heat players) and they should be top team in the east.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 6:27pm
There are 16 coaches that will make the NBA playoffs this year; 14 that won't. Spolestra won't so its pretty easy to argue that he's bottom 14 at the minimum and probably worse given his easy schedule and the talent on the team.lhslep134;1721829 wrote:I posted a link to the list of coaches last page. The only way you could say he's definitely bottom half is if you think there are 15 coaches unequivocally better than Spoelstra. I'm very curious to see a list of at least the 15 you think are better.
Looking at the list, I gave my rankings and I think Spoelstra is definitely top half and arguably fringe top 10. You could make an argument for him anywhere from 10-15ish so we're not that far off, I just don't think he's definitely bottom 15 because I can't find 15 coaches that I find unequivocally better.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 6:32pm
lol that's your argument?sleeper;1721832 wrote:There are 16 coaches that will make the NBA playoffs this year; 14 that won't. Spolestra won't so its pretty easy to argue that he's bottom 14 at the minimum and probably worse given his easy schedule and the talent on the team.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 6:38pm
There are only 4 active coaches with championships and only 2 with 2+ championships. It's pretty easy to argue Spoelstra is top 4 if not top 2 since, according to you, all that matters is winning and ringzzzzzz.sleeper;1721832 wrote:There are 16 coaches that will make the NBA playoffs this year; 14 that won't. Spolestra won't so its pretty easy to argue that he's bottom 14 at the minimum and probably worse given his easy schedule and the talent on the team.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 6:42pm
So a coach with 2 championships can't even make the playoffs? Anyway, we are talking about this year and this year 30 coaches started 0-0 and only 16 will make the playoffs. Spolestra failed to do that. He is a failure.lhslep134;1721835 wrote:There are only 4 active coaches with championships and only 2 with 2+ championships. It's pretty easy to argue Spoelstra is top 4 if not top 2 since, according to you, all that matters is winning and ringzzzzzz.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 6:44pm
Spolestra should go back to coaching women's high school basketball. He's that bad; an affirmative action hire in the NBA no doubt.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 6:44pm
So a coach's merit is based on one season?sleeper;1721836 wrote:So a coach with 2 championships can't even make the playoffs? Anyway, we are talking about this year and this year 30 coaches started 0-0 and only 16 will make the playoffs. Spolestra failed to do that. He is a failure.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 6:44pm
Your trolling used to be funny.sleeper;1721837 wrote:Spolestra should go back to coaching women's high school basketball. He's that bad; an affirmative action hire in the NBA no doubt.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 6:47pm
BUT RINGZZZ!!!111!!!! Your argument is invalid because of RINGZZZZZ. Top 4!!!!11!!!sleeper;1721836 wrote:So a coach with 2 championships can't even make the playoffs? Anyway, we are talking about this year and this year 30 coaches started 0-0 and only 16 will make the playoffs. Spolestra failed to do that. He is a failure.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 6:50pm
It's not now that he is giving your (second) team a hard time?robj55;1721839 wrote:Your trolling used to be funny.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 6:52pm
Lol yeah Sleeper is acting like typical Sleeper it's not more or less funny than it was before.like_that;1721841 wrote:It's not now that he is giving your (second) team a hard time?
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Apr 15, 2015 7:38pm
Westbrook probably lock up the scoring title tonight.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 9:21pm
In b4 Pick's Westbrook post to say that if the Thunder had not given up 116 points in Sunday's loss to Indiana, a team that needed 4Q + 1 OT to hit 85 last night, then the relevance of tonight's game wouldn't hinge on what the Pelicans do.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 15, 2015 9:27pm
Individually he had 1 hell of a season. His play isn't going to carry a sub par team to a playoff spot in the west....but I do enjoy his balls to the wall 100% effort on offense. Impressive what he did.gerb131;1721860 wrote:Westbrook probably lock up the scoring title tonight.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 15, 2015 9:56pm
Spurs back within 4.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 15, 2015 10:00pm
Spurs playing guys mostly and giving it a good effort even though they don't need it.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 10:02pm
If they win they get the second seed?Ironman92;1721907 wrote:Spurs playing guys mostly and giving it a good effort even though they don't need it.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 15, 2015 10:11pm
Not buying that they are life or death over that....they don't need home court to beat the Clippersrobj55;1721908 wrote:If they win they get the second seed?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 10:21pm
Pelicans make the playoffs. That was a fun game to watch.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 15, 2015 10:25pm
Spurs gonna drop from the 2 seed to the 6 seed if Memphis wins. Might be in Memphis' best interest not to win, though, given the difference between possibly facing the Clippers and Warriors in the 2nd round.
Bulls get the 3 seed in the east.
Bulls get the 3 seed in the east.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 15, 2015 10:27pm
Yep...but regardless the best team will come out of the west. Playoffs should be fun in the westMulva;1721916 wrote:Spurs gonna drop from the 2 seed to the 6 seed if Memphis wins. Might be in Memphis' best interest not to win, though, given the difference between possibly facing the Clippers and Warriors in the 2nd round.
Bulls get the 3 seed in the east.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Apr 15, 2015 10:28pm
Nice to see the pelicans get in