GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Apr 17, 2015 4:49pm
I would take Lebron over MJ in everything but blackjack and the 4th quarter of a Game 7.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 17, 2015 4:59pm
I'd bet MJ has lost way more money in BJ than Bron has. Bron doesn't strike me as a reckless gambler
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 17, 2015 6:17pm
Sure, maybe it is too early to crown a player who is still active. As of now, MJ is the best, but I think Lebron is a much better player.like_that;1722342 wrote:Time will tell.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 17, 2015 6:26pm
LeBron can do things that no one in the history of basketball can duplicate. Just the sheer size and athleticism puts him into a category of his own.
MJ is a better offensive player.
In the end, I think LBJ will end up as the best ever.
MJ is a better offensive player.
In the end, I think LBJ will end up as the best ever.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 17, 2015 7:13pm
He's in the discussion. This might be a fun discussion, in the discussion:Laley23;1722362 wrote:LeBron can do things that no one in the history of basketball can duplicate. Just the sheer size and athleticism puts him into a category of his own.
MJ is a better offensive player.
In the end, I think LBJ will end up as the best ever.
Shaq, LBJ, MJ, Wilt, Russell, Big O, Timmy
Anyone got someone else they want to throw into the hat?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 17, 2015 7:18pm
Kareem. Especially if you're talking from HS through NBA
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 17, 2015 7:31pm
Miguel Cabrera. Have you seen his jump shot?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 17, 2015 7:37pm
People will never acknowledge that though, Jordan came first and there is this thing called nostalgia. Jordan happened during our childhoods and people will always place their childhood above anything else from my experience.Laley23;1722362 wrote:LeBron can do things that no one in the history of basketball can duplicate. Just the sheer size and athleticism puts him into a category of his own.
MJ is a better offensive player.
In the end, I think LBJ will end up as the best ever.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 17, 2015 7:38pm
I can't put Wilt, Russell or Oscar up there because I never saw them play and neither did anyone else on here in real time.Commander of Awesome;1722369 wrote:He's in the discussion. This might be a fun discussion, in the discussion:
Shaq, LBJ, MJ, Wilt, Russell, Big O, Timmy
Anyone got someone else they want to throw into the hat?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 17, 2015 7:39pm
I'm not sure MJ is better offensively either, if you include passing and play making. They shoot nearly identical from the field as well. I think Lebron creates more offense.Laley23;1722362 wrote:LeBron can do things that no one in the history of basketball can duplicate. Just the sheer size and athleticism puts him into a category of his own.
MJ is a better offensive player.
In the end, I think LBJ will end up as the best ever.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 17, 2015 7:42pm
I feel since we are old enough to appreciate Lebrons game, that some of us don't realize how explosive MJ was. I watched him as a kid, but never could understand that as a child. I watched highlights of MJ the other day, and his athletic ability was amazing. He might not be the size of Lebron, but I think MJ would posterize anybody in this current league.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 17, 2015 7:43pm
Also, if Lebrons ends up going down as the greatest to play the game, then that would make me happy, because that would mean the Cavs have won at least one title.
Jk he will opt out and leave after the Cavs get knocked out by the bulls. /espn
Jk he will opt out and leave after the Cavs get knocked out by the bulls. /espn
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 17, 2015 7:58pm
Im not talking numbers here.robj55;1722375 wrote:I'm not sure MJ is better offensively either, if you include passing and play making. They shoot nearly identical from the field as well. I think Lebron creates more offense.
LeBron gets a lot of buckets and stuff because of his size and strength. That doesnt diminish anything, but it also makes MJ a better scorer imo. He had more moves, and just a way about him on offense. LBJ doesnt need it, which is why I say he is in a category alone. No one can just dominate like him by simply being better as well as stronger and faster. MJ was a tremendous athlete, but not LBJ. He got his baskets from a great pull up game and an array of moves on the wing/in the post.
LeBron is a better passer and can facilitate an offense in a way MJ could not.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 17, 2015 8:15pm
MJ was definitely an incredible athlete, his first step and burst was tremendous.like_that;1722376 wrote:I feel since we are old enough to appreciate Lebrons game, that some of us don't realize how explosive MJ was. I watched him as a kid, but never could understand that as a child. I watched highlights of MJ the other day, and his athletic ability was amazing. He might not be the size of Lebron, but I think MJ would posterize anybody in this current league.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 17, 2015 8:17pm
MJ used to live in the lane in his early years so that's somewhat of a wash. Jordan was a slightly better mid range shooter. Lebron has the ability though like you said to live on the block and get easy buckets there where as MJ had that mid post area.Laley23;1722379 wrote:Im not talking numbers here.
LeBron gets a lot of buckets and stuff because of his size and strength. That doesnt diminish anything, but it also makes MJ a better scorer imo. He had more moves, and just a way about him on offense. LBJ doesnt need it, which is why I say he is in a category alone. No one can just dominate like him by simply being better as well as stronger and faster. MJ was a tremendous athlete, but not LBJ. He got his baskets from a great pull up game and an array of moves on the wing/in the post.
LeBron is a better passer and can facilitate an offense in a way MJ could not.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 18, 2015 12:14am
Kareem and Magic on that list of best ever as well IMO
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Apr 18, 2015 10:05am
chuck was up there tooCommander of Awesome;1722369 wrote:He's in the discussion. This might be a fun discussion, in the discussion:
Shaq, LBJ, MJ, Wilt, Russell, Big O, Timmy
Anyone got someone else they want to throw into the hat?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 18, 2015 7:03pm
I think this is a fair analysis. Can't say I disagree.Laley23;1722379 wrote:Im not talking numbers here.
LeBron gets a lot of buckets and stuff because of his size and strength. That doesnt diminish anything, but it also makes MJ a better scorer imo. He had more moves, and just a way about him on offense. LBJ doesnt need it, which is why I say he is in a category alone. No one can just dominate like him by simply being better as well as stronger and faster. MJ was a tremendous athlete, but not LBJ. He got his baskets from a great pull up game and an array of moves on the wing/in the post.
LeBron is a better passer and can facilitate an offense in a way MJ could not.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 18, 2015 10:12pm
Clint Capela started the season 0/17 from the stripe? That seems like it should have been a bigger story.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 19, 2015 10:51pm
Memphis pwned Portland, watching Clippers/Spurs right now. Really chippy, does not disappoint.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 20, 2015 12:37am
Rough few minutes for aron baynes.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 20, 2015 6:49am
Didn't realize Crawford was back....Clips shredded Spurs defense
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 20, 2015 10:18pm
Of all people to get into a "fight" it's Zaza Pachulia and nikola mirotic lol
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 21, 2015 6:07am
I didn't watch the 2nd half but I hope the cavs get the Bulls from that first half.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 22, 2015 12:04am
Josh Smith dropping dimes. Pretty sure all 8 of his assists have come in the 4th quarter.