SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 15, 2015 3:17pm
Come on. Top 3 team in the east? Give me a fucking break.robj55;1721754 wrote:Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 15, 2015 3:18pm
It could happen.
Who would have thought Atlanta would be the 1...Toronto at 4?
Who would have thought Atlanta would be the 1...Toronto at 4?
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 3:19pm
68+ games out of wade, 77+ games out of bosh, full seasons from Goran, deng, and whiteside, and improvements in depth. I could see them being top 5 in the east under those circumstances. very little room for error though
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 3:24pm
They got 63 out of wade this year. Should have been more than enough to make the playoffs in the east.gport_tennis;1721763 wrote:68+ games out of wade, 77+ games out of bosh, full seasons from Goran, deng, and whiteside, and improvements in depth. I could see them being top 5 in the east under those circumstances. very little room for error though
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 3:25pm
I'll cut them some slack losing bosh for the year and basically having zero depth (quality wise)
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 3:26pm
I d wade is no longer a top 5 SG
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 3:26pm
Wade/goran/deng/whiteside should have been more than enough. Spoelstra is overrated.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:38pm
They had injuries all year, guys in and out of the lineup consistently, hard to get any chemistry or continuity that way. If they roll out this lineup next year:like_that;1721757 wrote:Led wades corpse? GTFO. They should have easily made the playoffs this year and didn't. I see them as a 5th seed, and not even close to one of the best teams in the league.
Dragic
Wade
Deng
Bosh
Whiteside
They easily win 50 games, dependent on health. They also lost McRoberts for the year early in the season.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:41pm
22,5 and 4 a game is pretty damn good, along with 47% from the field. Not sure how many guys are better at sg. Health is always the issue.gport_tennis;1721767 wrote:I d wade is no longer a top 5 SG
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Apr 15, 2015 3:42pm
Lololololol at 50 wins easily.robj55;1721773 wrote:They had injuries all year, guys in and out of the lineup consistently, hard to get any chemistry or continuity that way. If they roll out this lineup next year:
Dragic
Wade
Deng
Bosh
Whiteside
They easily win 50 games, dependent on health. They also lost McRoberts for the year early in the season.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:44pm
I'll revise and say top 4 or 5. Cle, Atl, Chi, Mia, Ind. East is gonna be much better next year and the raps and wizards should keep getting better. All speculation at this point though.SportsAndLady;1721759 wrote:Come on. Top 3 team in the east? Give me a fucking break.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:46pm
Not NBA talk but saw that Aaron Craft won defensive player of the year in the D League, good for him.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 3:48pm
Miami is a bottom feeder until they fire Spolestra. He is simply a bottom 5 coach who became successful because of a player named Lebron James.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:49pm
Didn't Spoelstra make the playoffs multiple years before Lebron arrived in Miami?sleeper;1721782 wrote:Miami is a bottom feeder until they fire Spolestra. He is simply a bottom 5 coach who became successful because of a player named Lebron James.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 15, 2015 3:51pm
Did the heat tank to keep their draft pick?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 4:36pm
Never got past the first round in the East. That's not very good.robj55;1721783 wrote:Didn't Spoelstra make the playoffs multiple years before Lebron arrived in Miami?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 4:40pm
But it doesn't make him anywhere near bottom 5 in the league.sleeper;1721796 wrote:Never got past the first round in the East. That's not very good.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 4:42pm
That was years ago. We are talking about now and right now he has a team that was in the NBA finals last year not even making the playoffs. He got carried to success by one player and he should be fired immediately if the Heat were run properly.robj55;1721797 wrote:But it doesn't make him anywhere near bottom 5 in the league.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 15, 2015 4:45pm
And that's about the peak number you can expect to get out of him at this stage of his career. Not sure where the pipe dream of 68+ is coming from.like_that;1721765 wrote:They got 63 out of wade this year. Should have been more than enough to make the playoffs in the east.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 4:49pm
Yeah, 68+ is very questionable. This is probably Wade's healthiest season the last 4 years.Heretic;1721799 wrote:And that's about the peak number you can expect to get out of him at this stage of his career. Not sure where the pipe dream of 68+ is coming from.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 5:36pm
Do you understand how injuries destroy chemistry and continuity on a basketball team? The Cavs were 19-20 at one point because of this.sleeper;1721798 wrote:That was years ago. We are talking about now and right now he has a team that was in the NBA finals last year not even making the playoffs. He got carried to success by one player and he should be fired immediately if the Heat were run properly.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 5:39pm
Eric spolzertra is the wortestest coach everz in the NbA brorobj55;1721813 wrote:Do you understand how injuries destroy chemistry and continuity on a basketball team? The Cavs were 19-20 at one point because of this.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 15, 2015 5:43pm
No. Injuries weren't the problem. Waiters chucking mentality with Kyrie Hero ball was the problem. Got that sack of shit Waiters out of here, KI on the same page and you see the results.robj55;1721813 wrote:Do you understand how injuries destroy chemistry and continuity on a basketball team? The Cavs were 19-20 at one point because of this.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 5:45pm
Add Jr smith, t moz, and shump helped tooCommander of Awesome;1721816 wrote:No. Injuries weren't the problem. Waiters chucking mentality with Kyrie Hero ball was the problem. Got that sack of shit Waiters out of here, KI on the same page and you see the results.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 5:47pm
Neither Love or Lebron were healthy, you don't think that was an issue?Commander of Awesome;1721816 wrote:No. Injuries weren't the problem. Waiters chucking mentality with Kyrie Hero ball was the problem. Got that sack of shit Waiters out of here, KI on the same page and you see the results.