sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 10:18am
Spolestra is the worst coach in the NBA. He had a player named Lebron James and that's why the Heat were so good.
This season essentially proved it.
This season essentially proved it.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 10:19am
If they didn't lose last night, I think it's destiny they make it lolLaley23;1721570 wrote:Not yet, and honestly, I bet they dont make it lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 15, 2015 10:28am
His FG% on those 43 was better than the rest of the team's FG%Automatik;1721393 wrote:Yeah and they have been getting handled in those losses.
Kobe defended Westbrook for 54 on 43 shots. No surprise there.
They are terrible
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 15, 2015 10:30am
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/kobe-bryant-is-now-in-the-habit-of-defending-superstars--and-he-s-hitting-half-his-shots-184619924.htmlIronman92;1721585 wrote:His FG% on those 43 was better than the rest of the team's FG%
They are terrible
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 15, 2015 11:49am
Unless a guy is absolutely on fire he shouldn't be shooting that much. There is something to be said about getting your teammates involved as it increases their effort on both ends of the floor, and could lead to an even better shooting percentage as the offense isn't as predictable or one dimensional.
Not a fan of hero ball unless it was like Steph Curry the other night, even then he didn't shoot as much as Westbrook.
Not a fan of hero ball unless it was like Steph Curry the other night, even then he didn't shoot as much as Westbrook.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 11:52am
I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitivesleeper;1721577 wrote:Spolestra is the worst coach in the NBA. He had a player named Lebron James and that's why the Heat were so good.
This season essentially proved it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 15, 2015 11:57am
Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.gport_tennis;1721618 wrote:I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitive
Coaches I'd take over Sp:
Pop
Kerr
Rick Carlisle
Doc
Vogel
Stotts
McHale
Blatt
Joerger
Stevens
Mark Jackson
Off the top of my head without even thinking about it.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 11:58am
Didn't say he was better than brad Stevens did I? I'd take only popovich over Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens has a chance to be the best coach ever IMO.Commander of Awesome;1721624 wrote:Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 15, 2015 11:59am
Is that serious?gport_tennis;1721626 wrote:Didn't say he was better than brad Stevens did I? I'd take only popovich over Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens has a chance to be the best coach ever IMO.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 12:00pm
Yes. I'm not the only on to think he is an excellent coach.SportsAndLady;1721627 wrote:Is that serious?
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Brad Stevens is the best in game coach in the NBA. Pop has a better system / culture gets the rest stuff etc. But Stevens is best in game
8:34 PM - 30 Mar 2015
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 12:03pm
Spoelstra could be top 10 and still not be better than Stevens so that doesn't really counter his pointCommander of Awesome;1721624 wrote:Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.
Here's a list of the current coaches
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Basketball_Association_head_coaches
I'd probably have Spoelstra and Vogel around the top 10.
1. Pop 2. Thibs 3. Stevens (he got them to the 7th seed, let's not overreact here...Thibs has done more with Joakim Noah as the fulcrum of his offense) 4-8 (no order) Kerr, Bud, SVG, Carlisle, Karl 9-11 Doc, Spoelstra, Vogel
But that doesn't necessarily mean they're good coaches; in the NBA talent means a lot more than coaching. I wouldn't argue with you if you thought guys like Stotts or Hornacek or anybody else in that range are better
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 12:06pm
Also making the playoffs doesn't make you a good coach, I.e. Vinny del negro, mike brown, kevin McHale, etc.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 15, 2015 12:10pm
Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 12:12pm
2 finals fours at butler is pretty damn impressive, have to include that in with his career. I said he could be the best of ball time, he will obviously need some better players, but if he gets the talent I could see him making consistently deep runs for a long time.SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 12:13pm
Right. But in the NBA success doesn't reflect good coaching as much as doing more with less does, so I'm pretty impressed by the job Stevens has done.SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 12:13pm
His player development skills are very good as well, how many of those players are playing the best ball of their careers this year? Pretty much all of them I'd say
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 15, 2015 12:14pm
And lets face it, he only barely made the playoffs in the weak East even with the Cavs giving them 2 free wins.SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 15, 2015 12:34pm
Pretty excited for tonight's slate. 4 games to decide 2 playoff spots. OKC @ MIN and SA @ NOP; IND @ MEM and ORL @ BKN
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Apr 15, 2015 12:36pm
The Celtics traded away Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green and all Stevens has done is led them to the 4th best record in the NBA since Feb. 2 with Evan Turner at PG. Stevens is incredible.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 15, 2015 12:49pm
He's got a team of name brand stars and he can't even make the playoffs in the East. He's a bottom 5 coach at best right there with Derek Fisher LOLgport_tennis;1721618 wrote:I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitive
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 12:51pm
That's great, but it was also a soft schedule. I think Stevens is a great coach though.Terry_Tate;1721652 wrote:The Celtics traded away Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green and all Stevens has done is led them to the 4th best record in the NBA since Feb. 2 with Evan Turner at PG. Stevens is incredible.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 15, 2015 1:10pm
Henry Walker played 40 minutes, Haslem, Beasley and Tyler Johnston all played 20+ minutes in their last game. Bosh has missed half the year, wasde has missed 20+ games, Team of name brand stars? where?sleeper;1721658 wrote:He's got a team of name brand stars and he can't even make the playoffs in the East. He's a bottom 5 coach at best right there with Derek Fisher LOL
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 15, 2015 3:10pm
Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 15, 2015 3:15pm
Led wades corpse? GTFO. They should have easily made the playoffs this year and didn't. I see them as a 5th seed, and not even close to one of the best teams in the league.robj55;1721754 wrote:Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 15, 2015 3:16pm
No and No.robj55;1721754 wrote:Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.