Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 20, 2015 11:35pm
No problem. I just got done explaining to idiots that thought, "who cares, both teams got to play with them?". I had to explain that each team is responsible to their own...robj55;1698310 wrote:Yes, thanks for clarification.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 20, 2015 11:37pm
Seems like they did in fact intentionally cheat then, interesting.Laley23;1698311 wrote:No problem. I just got done explaining to idiots that thought, "who cares, both teams got to play with them?". I had to explain that each team is responsible to their own...
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 20, 2015 11:38pm
Easy way to fix this. Instead of the NFL giving them the balls back after inspection. Just keep the damn balls. Allows the teams time to "rough" them up a bit, but no way to alter after the fact.Laley23;1698311 wrote:No problem. I just got done explaining to idiots that thought, "who cares, both teams got to play with them?". I had to explain that each team is responsible to their own...
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 20, 2015 11:51pm
The penalty is so light, why not try to get every advantage? Until the NFL toughens the penalty for purposefully cheating, why would a team like the Pats not try it?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2015 11:51pm
So the Pats blatantly cheated to gain a competitive advantage. Does the NFL do anything or just fine the billionaire craft a shit ton of money that amounts to about $50 to the rest of us?
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 20, 2015 11:53pm
Probably fine and a draft pick.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 21, 2015 12:29am
Prob same thing it did to the steelers for their HC cheating, nothing. If it were the browns, the team would be suspended for 12 games and fined a zillion dollars.
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Sonofanump
Jan 21, 2015 12:30am
I did not realize that the officials did not keep the game balls until kickoff.HighRoller74;1698314 wrote:Easy way to fix this. Instead of the NFL giving them the balls back after inspection. Just keep the damn balls. Allows the teams time to "rough" them up a bit, but no way to alter after the fact.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jan 21, 2015 3:26am
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/on-scale-of-1-10--it-s-11-for-patriots-in-deflate-gate-mess---070254658.html;_ylt=AwrBEiI_YL9UHCUAzF5NbK5_
That article sums it up pretty well. Here's the part of the article that bothers me though:
That article sums it up pretty well. Here's the part of the article that bothers me though:
Who cares about their reputation? Belichick will just reply "We're onto the superbowl" when asked and the media will just chuckle like 'typical Belichick he doesn't answer anything.' They've had this problem for years and yet keep winning super bowls. I bet they lose a lot of sleep at night with an ugly reputation but a bunch of trophies to still look at. What's worse is that now Goodell has to discipline them and will just end up suspending Kraft and Belichick from two of next year's preseason games or something. SMH.This is a brutal black eye to the reputation of a franchise that has tried desperately to move past Spygate. It's chum to its legion of critics. There may not be an explanation or exoneration that can change public opinion at this point. It's a situation that winds up being an insult to what we'll assume is the overwhelming number of players who don't know anything about mandated-inflation levels but have to have their hard work and accomplishments questioned.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 21, 2015 6:35am
Why doesn't the league just take over this function?
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jan 21, 2015 7:33am
I wish the Browns would do this. Serves dual purpose: win an extra game or two and lose draft picks, thus preventing more of our T-Rich and Weeden-like fuck-ups.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 21, 2015 7:56am
Who gives a fuck honestly? I couldn't give a damn about the Pats. So what it makes it easier to catch, you ever try throwing a flat football? D'qwell probably has his "flat" football to thank for his int tbh.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 21, 2015 8:03am
NFL needs to come down hard on this. It's the integrity of the league that's at stake. They worry about, suspend and fine players for off field stuff that does not affect what goes on the field, but they slap a wrist on cheating? Worse, it's not the first time the Pats have been caught.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:06am
Aaron Rodgers over inflates the footballs he uses and no one gives a damn, so why should the league come down hard on this? Do you think it has any impact on the game? Did that stop Indy from scoring more points?HitsRus;1698342 wrote:NFL needs to come down hard on this. It's the integrity of the league that's at stake. They worry about, suspend and fine players for off field stuff that does not affect what goes on the field, but they slap a wrist on cheating? Worse, it's not the first time the Pats have been caught.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 21, 2015 8:16am
Why should the league come down hard on cheating?Raw Dawgin' it;1698343 wrote:Aaron Rodgers over inflates the footballs he uses and no one gives a damn, so why should the league come down hard on this? Do you think it has any impact on the game? Did that stop Indy from scoring more points?
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 21, 2015 8:22am
It doesn't matter if the score was 100-0. They cheated, and yes, they need to be punished harshly. If only we could find out all of the ways they cheat because I guarantee this isn't the only thing.Raw Dawgin' it;1698343 wrote:Aaron Rodgers over inflates the footballs he uses and no one gives a damn, so why should the league come down hard on this? Do you think it has any impact on the game? Did that stop Indy from scoring more points?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 21, 2015 8:23am
Link and proof? If he does then that should be addressed too.lAaron Rodgers over inflates the footballs he uses and no one gives a damn,
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 21, 2015 8:28am
filming practices is fucked up, stepping out on the field to stop somebody from scoring is fucked up. deflating balls making them easier to catch and harder to throw isn't fucked up. its a tradeoff.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:33am
http://deadspin.com/aaron-rodgers-likes-to-tamper-with-footballs-too-1680676328HitsRus;1698348 wrote:Link and proof? If he does then that should be addressed too.l
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:34am
I'd bet every team does things like this to gain any advantage possible. Patriots are just always under a microscope. Pretty sure the reward for them out weighs any possible punishment.Rotinaj;1698347 wrote:It doesn't matter if the score was 100-0. They cheated, and yes, they need to be punished harshly. If only we could find out all of the ways they cheat because I guarantee this isn't the only thing.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:36am
My point was, why is this such a big deal and Rodgers over inflating to help him throw not an issue at all?SportsAndLady;1698345 wrote:Why should the league come down hard on cheating?
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:37am
More on Rodgers and over inflating
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12201369/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-upset-referees-take-air-footballs
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12201369/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-upset-referees-take-air-footballs
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 21, 2015 8:39am
Not sure but it really doesn't matter. If Rodgers is cheating he should get in trouble too. Point is, the patriots cheated and this isn't their first time getting caught cheating.Raw Dawgin' it;1698352 wrote:My point was, why is this such a big deal and Rodgers over inflating to help him throw not an issue at all?
Their reputation is destroyed by being a bunch of cheaters.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 21, 2015 8:42am
I've heard the possibility of the Patriots losing 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks, along with a fine, for this. I've also heard Belichick could be suspended for a year. I think a fair "punishment" for Belichick would be to force him to come back to coach the Browns...
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 21, 2015 8:48am
They could suspend him and i bet he finds a way to coach the team. I honestly don't think they give a shit about punishments for anything they do.BR1986FB;1698355 wrote:I've heard the possibility of the Patriots losing 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks, along with a fine, for this. I've also heard Belichick could be suspended for a year. I think a fair "punishment" for Belichick would be to force him to come back to coach the Browns...