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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 24, 2014 10:19am
There is still real racism in the world. If your goal is to help get rid of it, assuming racism and having to change facts multiple times to fit that assumption does nothing but hurt your cause.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 24, 2014 10:37am
Propose a solution. Having a conversation is worthless. How do you propose we fix it?FatHobbit;1689032 wrote:I agree that there will be less racism as older generations die but I don't think it's ok to just accept it. I don't care if individuals stereotype, but I think it's an issue if the justice system/law enforcement does.
Also your 38 million to 1 million in prison example is terrible. They aren't racial profiling black women, older blacks, or younger blacks; they are profiling blacks between the ages of 18-30 that commit the vast majority of crimes in this country despite being a small percentage of the population. Sorry, stop having young adult blacks commit crimes and we can stop racial profiling. You know why we racially profile? Because it works.

TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Dec 24, 2014 10:39am
Well, that makes two criminals in the St. Louis area that would be alive today had they listened to the police.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 24, 2014 10:40am
Racism absolutely exists and in my opinion it will NEVER go away. Even if you get to the point where "real" racism is eliminated, minorities have an incentive to keep up with perceived racism so they can maintain certain benefits established for them(affirmative action, quotas, anti-discrimination laws, "diversity", hate crimes, etc.).queencitybuckeye;1689193 wrote:There is still real racism in the world. If your goal is to help get rid of it, assuming racism and having to change facts multiple times to fit that assumption does nothing but hurt your cause.

TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Dec 24, 2014 10:45am
I think we should go ahead and pay all the blacks the reparations they want and call it a day. Then all these problems will go away.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Dec 24, 2014 10:54am
As well as never having to accept responsibility for your actions.gut;1689157 wrote:That's the push for the concept of "white privilege"...then the well of victimization and excuses can never run dry - if you're born black then you are automatically always a victim of racism, even if you were never to actually experience any in life.
Is the goal here to perpetuate racism rather than end it?....because that is certainly what is happening. We've had 50 years of legislated civil rights, education in the classroom, and judicial support.....most of all the "Old racists" have died off and left positions of power....yet we still fight the same battles, only the circumstances change.
I would submit to you that racism still exists because it's advantagious for the "victims" to perpetuate it. It is so much easier to blame someone else for your plight....white people, the "system", police.....pick your next oppressor. And it won't end until the enablers and the syncophants claiming to represent the best interests of minorities are discredited.
That's not going to happen soon, because the media serves the narrative....
Consider that nowhere have we heard or seen any major player or the media talk about the "victims" responsibilty/culpability in their own deaths.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 24, 2014 10:55am
I agree with this. If it were 25-45 year old Asians or 50 year old whites committing crimes they'd be profiling them too. Profiling isn't random, events of certain demographics lead to it.sleeper;1689200 wrote:Propose a solution. Having a conversation is worthless. How do you propose we fix it?
Also your 38 million to 1 million in prison example is terrible. They aren't racial profiling black women, older blacks, or younger blacks; they are profiling blacks between the ages of 18-30 that commit the vast majority of crimes in this country despite being a small percentage of the population. Sorry, stop having young adult blacks commit crimes and we can stop racial profiling. You know why we racially profile? Because it works.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Dec 24, 2014 11:05am
If you add up all the welfare are we close to paid-in-full yet?TedSheckler;1689210 wrote:I think we should go ahead and pay all the blacks the reparations they want and call it a day. Then all these problems will go away.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Dec 24, 2014 11:49am
Raw Dawgin' it;1689219 wrote:I agree with this. If it were 25-45 year old Asians or 50 year old whites committing crimes they'd be profiling them too. Profiling isn't random, events of certain demographics lead to it.
The reality is that it is criminal profiling ............ the libtards just want to call it racial profiling so they can feed the narrative they invented.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 24, 2014 12:39pm
I agree with this entire post 100%.HitsRus;1689218 wrote:As well as never having to accept responsibility for your actions.
Is the goal here to perpetuate racism rather than end it?....because that is certainly what is happening. We've had 50 years of legislated civil rights, education in the classroom, and judicial support.....most of all the "Old racists" have died off and left positions of power....yet we still fight the same battles, only the circumstances change.
I would submit to you that racism still exists because it's advantagious for the "victims" to perpetuate it. It is so much easier to blame someone else for your plight....white people, the "system", police.....pick your next oppressor. And it won't end until the enablers and the syncophants claiming to represent the best interests of minorities are discredited.
That's not going to happen soon, because the media serves the narrative....
Consider that nowhere have we heard or seen any major player or the media talk about the "victims" responsibilty/culpability in their own deaths.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 24, 2014 12:39pm
I needed to clarify I meant black males 18-30.Raw Dawgin' it;1689219 wrote:I agree with this. If it were 25-45 year old Asians or 50 year old whites committing crimes they'd be profiling them too. Profiling isn't random, events of certain demographics lead to it.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 24, 2014 1:23pm
The cops should just boycott that area and let them fuckers get by on their own. So now a black guy points a gun at a cop and gets shot and they are still pissed. Fuck em.

Spock
Posts: 2,853
Dec 24, 2014 2:48pm
funny how he was the same age as Michael Brown but Brown was a "kid" and this was a "man". I guess if you have a gun you are an adult in the presses mind
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 24, 2014 2:53pm
Perhaps that, and you have had to use the gun in multiple crimes before being stupid enough to use it against someone capable of fighting back.Spock;1689295 wrote:funny how he was the same age as Michael Brown but Brown was a "kid" and this was a "man". I guess if you have a gun you are an adult in the presses mind

Spock
Posts: 2,853
Dec 24, 2014 2:55pm
agreed. Probably done this many times just like I am sure it wasn't Michael Browns first strong arm convienence store robbery before he got shot. Jut like it wasn't the first fight that Trayvon started for no ggod reason or the first time Eric Gardner sold loosy cigsqueencitybuckeye;1689299 wrote:Perhaps that, and you have had to use the gun in multiple crimes before being stupid enough to use it against someone capable of fighting back.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Dec 24, 2014 10:16pm
---Allen WestYes, we do have a problem in America and it is with raising our young black men to be respectful and responsible — there is a reason why we have a Ray Rice or an Adrian Peterson — it starts early. We have a problem with media sensationalism and truth. We have a problem with the respect of the rule of law. We have a problem with regard for our law enforcement officers. We have a problem with victimization and the politics of race and the advancement of a “by any means necessary” skewed vision of justice.
full link and context
http://allenbwest.com/2014/11/ferguson-progressive-socialist-lefts-racial-waterloo/
...and yet such universal common sense is ignored. ( just substitute "Kids" for "black men").....Worse, West is villified, ostracised, marginalized by those and their media supporters because he doesn't support the approved narrative.
Yet this is exactly what people in leadership positions should be advocating...denouncing vigilante mob mentality, denouncing the robbery, the illegal actions, that brought this about....refusing to martyr criminals that contributed to their own demise....while at the same time commiting themselves to personally see that justice was done and that correct procedures were followed, and then issuing a fair an accurate accounting, WITHOUT AGENDA.

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 26, 2014 9:12am
I love that "black lives matter" is a thing, and that people don't find it blatantly racist. The complete hypocrisy of the left.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 26, 2014 10:56am
How is it blatantly racist?iclfan2;1689487 wrote:I love that "black lives matter" is a thing, and that people don't find it blatantly racist. The complete hypocrisy of the left.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 26, 2014 1:52pm
Cuz they only care about their own kind. A teacher at a college wrote "all lives matter" and had to apologize for taking focus away from the black plight.
Also, if people violently protested and chanted white lives mattered, you California freaks would be up in arms.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"
Also, if people violently protested and chanted white lives mattered, you California freaks would be up in arms.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 26, 2014 4:52pm
iclfan2;1689487 wrote:I love that "black lives matter" is a thing, and that people don't find it blatantly racist.
iclfan2;1689522 wrote:Cuz they only care about their own kind.


iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 26, 2014 5:57pm
Racism gets thrown around for the most minute of things, so in 2014's definition of the word I think this fits.
And even if it doesn't, going around violently protesting isn't going to get anyone on your side. And with a slogan of black lives matter, they are only furthering the divide.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"
And even if it doesn't, going around violently protesting isn't going to get anyone on your side. And with a slogan of black lives matter, they are only furthering the divide.
"Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 26, 2014 6:28pm
IMHO that's ridiculous.iclfan2;1689522 wrote:A teacher at a college wrote "all lives matter" and had to apologize for taking focus away from the black plight.

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 26, 2014 9:37pm
Why do you keep typing this into every post when it's in your signature?iclfan2;1689572 wrote: "Get busy livin, or get busy dyin"

GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 26, 2014 10:10pm
Its in his Tapatalk signature and signature for the website. Same thing fab1b had going on.sherm03;1689596 wrote:Why do you keep typing this into every post when it's in your signature?

-Society-
Posts: 1,348
Dec 27, 2014 12:26pm
Comedians aren't very smart.GoChiefs;1689598 wrote:Its in his Tapatalk signature and signature for the website. Same thing fab1b had going on.