robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 15, 2014 10:53pm
No but he would be one of the best. What I was saying that if you're saying that he can't guard on the perimeter in the NBA then there is basically no one that can so it's a moot point.KB0938;1636510 wrote:So you're saying craft would be the best defender in the NBA on the perimeter?
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jul 15, 2014 11:01pm
Eh i think hed be good, but i could think of a handful of guards off the top of my head who id rather have defensively and arent nearly as bad of a trade off offensively. I think hell compete but ultimately end up in a high level European league
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 15, 2014 11:05pm
Right I'm definitely not talking about offensively lol Strictly defensively. I've said all along that he has an uphill battle do to his deficiencies but he does have an actual NBA skill in defending. He seems to be in the perfect spot as Steve Kerr loves him. Like you said though there is always Europe where he would make a shit ton of money either way.KB0938;1636513 wrote:Eh i think hed be good, but i could think of a handful of guards off the top of my head who id rather have defensively and arent nearly as bad of a trade off offensively. I think hell compete but ultimately end up in a high level European league
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 15, 2014 11:37pm
Craft ain't playin in no damn NBA
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 15, 2014 11:59pm
I don't think Craft has a chance but he is in the perfect place. I have seen a couple Kerr interviews and he has went out of his way to heap praise on Craft without being prompted. I think his original quote was Craft is a baller. He's said he likes his basketball iq and drive.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 16, 2014 6:28am
@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 16, 2014 7:58am
Craft would be a top 5 defender in the league but he'd be bottom 5 in offensive anything. No way he makes a team.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 16, 2014 8:07am
I think Craft could be a niche defender, but automatically top 5? I doubt it. However, it's a specialty league. I can see him latching on somewhere if there's a coach that's infatuated with his one skill. If anything, maybe just having him around to really push around a starting PG who struggles with a very physical and "dirty" defender.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 16, 2014 8:36am
Top 5.Azubuike24;1636549 wrote:I think Craft could be a niche defender, but automatically top 5? I doubt it. However, it's a specialty league. I can see him latching on somewhere if there's a coach that's infatuated with his one skill. If anything, maybe just having him around to really push around a starting PG who struggles with a very physical and "dirty" defender.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 16, 2014 9:13am
Top 26.sleeper;1636553 wrote:Top 5.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 16, 2014 9:51am
Pacers window closing?wildcats20;1636541 wrote:@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jul 16, 2014 10:00am
Kerr could just be blowing smoke, but from all his comments about Craft he seems to really like him. Warriors don't need him for offense, they have plenty. There have been guys before who are 0 threat offensively and still made a living in the NBA due to their rebounding/defense. Hopefully, Craft could be another.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jul 16, 2014 1:07pm
Top 5? Id take Beverly, Paul, Iggy, Jimmy Butler and Mike Conley and thats just guards.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jul 16, 2014 1:08pm
Thats a big blow for Indiana. Although he was a headcase, he was an excellent all around player for them.wildcats20;1636541 wrote:@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 16, 2014 1:19pm
Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.KB0938;1636622 wrote:Top 5? Id take Beverly, Paul, Iggy, Jimmy Butler and Mike Conley and thats just guards.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jul 16, 2014 1:20pm
Lol rightsleeper;1636625 wrote:Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 16, 2014 1:25pm
Maybe that'll be good for the Pacers to get him out of there. Who knows, he could have been a huge reason for their choke job last season.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 16, 2014 2:04pm
Craft a top 5 defender in the NBA right now? There's no way. Top 5 on ball defender okay maybe, but that's still a huge stretch. Top 5 overall defender? Not a fucking chance.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 16, 2014 2:10pm
What would differentiate him from being top 5 on ball but not top 5 overall defender in your opinion? He is very good off the ball in help situations, gets hands on balls and take charges.SportsAndLady;1636650 wrote:Craft a top 5 defender in the NBA right now? There's no way. Top 5 on ball defender okay maybe, but that's still a huge stretch. Top 5 overall defender? Not a fucking chance.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jul 16, 2014 2:16pm
Hed have to prove he COULD do it to NBA guards, not just B1G 10 opponents and summer league players(I know thats not his fault he hasnt faced them). Then I might be willing to say he could be top 5, but until then ill take the proven guards I listed and their defense over his
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 16, 2014 2:34pm
sleeper;1636553 wrote:Top 5.
Rotinaj;1636554 wrote:Top 26.
I'm sure he wouldn't mind being considered a top 40 right now, as long as he makes a roster.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 5:06pm
Because he can't guard someone over 6'7". To me being a top overall defender is a combination of skills + ability to defend multiple positions.robj55;1636655 wrote:What would differentiate him from being top 5 on ball but not top 5 overall defender in your opinion? He is very good off the ball in help situations, gets hands on balls and take charges.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 16, 2014 6:38pm
Mike Conley may be better, he did go to Ohio State after all.sleeper;1636625 wrote:Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jul 16, 2014 10:28pm
Craft won't be making any team. People need to stop talking about it. I watched him with the Sixers in the Orlando summer league and he was absolutely horrible. I watched part of the GSW/Lakers game last night, and he looked like he has settled some, but nowhere near what he needs to be.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 16, 2014 11:18pm
Mike Conley is a top 5 PG but Craft would be a better defender.Terry_Tate;1636718 wrote:Mike Conley may be better, he did go to Ohio State after all.