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vball10set
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Jul 16, 2014 3:01pm
sleeper;1636670 wrote:You can sign anyone to the vet's minimum regardless of cap space.
I did not know this. Thanks.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 16, 2014 3:07pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1636669 wrote:I read somewhere that there's still enough available to sign Ray.
sleeper;1636670 wrote:You can sign anyone to the vet's minimum regardless of cap space.
Yeah they can sign him but then he'd barely play. That was my point. If he does sign it guarantees they are getting Love and he's chasing a championship.
I had had to clarify before LHS cries about how it's possible and no one knows anything but him.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 16, 2014 3:24pm
I'd play Ray over James Jones...ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636672 wrote:Yeah they can sign him but then he'd barely play. That was my point. If he does sign it guarantees they are getting Love and he's chasing a championship.
I had had to clarify before LHS cries about how it's possible and no one knows anything but him.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 4:07pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636672 wrote: I had had to clarify before LHS cries about how it's possible and no one knows anything but him.
The only one crying here is you because I called you out on your bullshit logic, of which you haven't rebutted. So keep on with this "LHS crying" nonsense because it just makes you look like a butthurt bitch.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 4:10pm
FYI there's a Q&A with Blatt on Grantland http://grantland.com/the-triangle/qa-cavs-coach-david-blatt-on-lebron-princeton-and-the-natural/
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 16, 2014 4:32pm
I offered the reasoning, I can't help you're too dense to grasp it. There's no rebuttal possible after you try to explain to someone that the names didn't matter, it was the fact that you weren't going to give Minnesota anything worthwhile when they're in the position they're in. I could have told you I'd offer Waiters and Donald Duck and you'd let me know Donald Duck doesn't play for Cleveland and doesn't make enough money anyways.lhslep134;1636685 wrote:The only one crying here is you because I called you out on your bullshit logic, of which you haven't rebutted. So keep on with this "LHS crying" nonsense because it just makes you look like a butthurt bitch.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 16, 2014 4:43pm
Donald Duck probably has weird rotation on his shot.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 16, 2014 4:49pm
It's not bad. A little like a knuckle ball but it does actually have some backspin.SportsAndLady;1636692 wrote:Donald Duck probably has weird rotation on his shot.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 5:33pm
And this was my response: that I understood your point. See, I even said that!ZWICK 4 PREZ;1636691 wrote: There's no rebuttal possible after you try to explain to someone that the names didn't matter, it was the fact that you weren't going to give Minnesota anything worthwhile when they're in the position they're in..
And my main point, that you clearly disregarded, is not that it's salary cap impossible for that trade to happen, but that it could never get to the point where that's all Minnesota would accept. I also explicitly said that too!lhslep134;1636330 wrote:I get the point. You just had a retarded post that was premised on extremely faulty logic.
lhslep134;1636321 wrote:
1) the vast amount of assumptions you're making that
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 16, 2014 5:34pm
As an FYI, if it hasn't been mentioned, for those of you who have Showtime, tonight at 8pm Jim Rome will be interviewing the guy who wrote the SI piece on Lebron's return. Heard some snippets of the interview on the way home and it sounded fascinating.
Talked about when OSU played Michigan St and Lebron was rooting for the Buckeyes while all of his Miami teammates were rooting for MSU. Also a comment about how the author interviewed Tristan Thompson and Lebron would constantly be checking in to see how the Cavs "young guys were developing."
Talked about when OSU played Michigan St and Lebron was rooting for the Buckeyes while all of his Miami teammates were rooting for MSU. Also a comment about how the author interviewed Tristan Thompson and Lebron would constantly be checking in to see how the Cavs "young guys were developing."
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 16, 2014 5:40pm
And now, a hypothetical for all of the Wiggins lovers....I'd heard that for all of the Cavs posturing, if push comes to shove, Wiggins isn't "off limits." If Lebron tells the front office "get Kevin Love....whatever it takes" what do YOU do?
Obviously you'd want to ride it out as long as possible to call their bluff but it seems like a lot of the "just one before I die" crowd has gotten pretty greedy.
Obviously you'd want to ride it out as long as possible to call their bluff but it seems like a lot of the "just one before I die" crowd has gotten pretty greedy.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 16, 2014 5:51pm
"Just one before I die" I've never heard anyone say this. Maybe some of the old timers (cough cough footwedge) may be saying that, but to me that's retarded. I want Cleveland to win 5 championships with Lebron, why would I just root for one? LolBR1986FB;1636705 wrote:And now, a hypothetical for all of the Wiggins lovers....I'd heard that for all of the Cavs posturing, if push comes to shove, Wiggins isn't "off limits." If Lebron tells the front office "get Kevin Love....whatever it takes" what do YOU do?
Obviously you'd want to ride it out as long as possible to call their bluff but it seems like a lot of the "just one before I die" crowd has gotten pretty greedy.
If you have a chance to have "the next Lebron" learn from Lebron himself, why wouldn't you want that? Lebron is almost 30. in 5 years he probably won't be the best NBA player. Wiggins very well could be. You don't trade that opportunity for "just one title before I die".
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 5:54pm
Thanks for the heads up BR, I just DVR'd it.
Lovejoy1984
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Jul 16, 2014 5:54pm
To me, if I have to include Wiggins, the other assets I'm giving significantly go down.
Instead of being ok with a Waiters, TT and/or Bennett Combo, with up to 3 #1s, I'd move my offer down to Wiggins, TT/Bennett, and no picks, at all, plus I'd ask for Zach LaVine as Well as Love/Dieng
Simply put:
Waiters/TT/Bennett 3#1s for Love/Deing
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ovd7trf
Or
Wiggins/TT/Hayward for Love/LaVine/Dieng
Trade machine doesn't work because Wiggins hasn't signed.
Instead of being ok with a Waiters, TT and/or Bennett Combo, with up to 3 #1s, I'd move my offer down to Wiggins, TT/Bennett, and no picks, at all, plus I'd ask for Zach LaVine as Well as Love/Dieng
Simply put:
Waiters/TT/Bennett 3#1s for Love/Deing
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ovd7trf
Or
Wiggins/TT/Hayward for Love/LaVine/Dieng
Trade machine doesn't work because Wiggins hasn't signed.
Rotinaj
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Jul 16, 2014 5:54pm
Who is saying Wiggins is the next Lebron? Lets not go crazy here.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jul 16, 2014 5:56pm
He's been consensus best prospect since LeBron since he was like 15.Rotinaj;1636709 wrote:Who is saying Wiggins is the next Lebron? Lets not go crazy here.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 16, 2014 6:01pm
He wasn't even the consensus #1 pick of this draft.HighRoller74;1636710 wrote:He's been consensus best prospect since LeBron since he was like 15.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 16, 2014 6:03pm
Pretty sure he was on a magazine cover (GQ maybe?) where it said "the next Lebron James"Rotinaj;1636709 wrote:Who is saying Wiggins is the next Lebron? Lets not go crazy here.
The comparisons have been made.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 16, 2014 6:04pm
No one is comparing Wiggins to Lebron, they're different players.
Wiggins has, however, been the "best prospect since Lebron" since he was 15.
Wiggins has, however, been the "best prospect since Lebron" since he was 15.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jul 16, 2014 6:06pm
For pretty much the entire season he was the #1 guy. Embiid jumped him towards the end of the year, but Embiid came out of no where.Rotinaj;1636711 wrote:He wasn't even the consensus #1 pick of this draft.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 16, 2014 6:37pm
Update:
My guy is having dinner with Lebron tonight. I will know more probably as soon as tomorrow and if I get internet (I'll be in Amsterdam) I will rely the info. If not, expect it by monday. Sorry that I was wrong, he's usually money.
My guy is having dinner with Lebron tonight. I will know more probably as soon as tomorrow and if I get internet (I'll be in Amsterdam) I will rely the info. If not, expect it by monday. Sorry that I was wrong, he's usually money.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 16, 2014 6:39pm
I don't think anybody is sorry that you were wrong, it means they still have Wiggins, lol.ohiobucks1;1636717 wrote:Update:
My guy is having dinner with Lebron tonight. I will know more probably as soon as tomorrow and if I get internet (I'll be in Amsterdam) I will rely the info. If not, expect it by monday. Sorry that I was wrong, he's usually money.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 16, 2014 6:42pm
Speaking of which, any idea when Lebron will have his press conference?
Benny The Jet
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Jul 16, 2014 7:02pm
Is he having one? I thought he said, no party, no press conference...it's just time to get to work.like_that;1636720 wrote:Speaking of which, any idea when Lebron will have his press conference?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 16, 2014 7:04pm
I thought he just said no press conference. I don't recall tho.Benny The Jet;1636724 wrote:Is he having one? I thought he said, no party, no press conference...it's just time to get to work.