Archive Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Jul 13, 2014 12:44pm

SportsAndLady;1635716 wrote:6th, 14th, and 30th picks sounds about right.

I see what you did there. I think Miami's is only top 10 protected, though, so lets change that 14 to 11.

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HelloAgain

Posts: 537

Jul 13, 2014 1:24pm

If Cleveland doesn't make any major moves(basically meaning we don't trade for Love, keep all our quality young guys) this season, what do you see their ceiling and floor being?

Ceiling: I'd say there's an outside chance to win the East if everything falls correctly - Rose and Gasol never regain their form, the Pacers continue their collapse, Wizards and Raptors don't sustain their growth, etc.

Floor: A 2nd round playoff exit?

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 13, 2014 1:29pm

I will be upset with anything other than an NBA title

We have the best player in the world and another all star with a good coach and supporting cast. What else could you ask for?

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gport_tennis

Posts: 1,796

Jul 13, 2014 1:39pm

SportsAndLady;1635728 wrote:I will be upset with anything other than an NBA title

We have the best player in the world and another all star with a good coach and supporting cast. What else could you ask for?

I'll be happy with a deep playoff run and seeing more growth out of Kyrie and the young guys. Time for kyrie to grow up and earn that max money

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Jul 13, 2014 1:41pm

HelloAgain;1635724 wrote:If Cleveland doesn't make any major moves(basically meaning we don't trade for Love, keep all our quality young guys) this season, what do you see their ceiling and floor being?

Ceiling: I'd say there's an outside chance to win the East if everything falls correctly - Rose and Gasol never regain their form, the Pacers continue their collapse, Wizards and Raptors don't sustain their growth, etc.

Floor: A 2nd round playoff exit?

That seems about right to me, but I don't think all of the things you listed are necessary for this team to win the east. Not too worried about the Wizards or Raptors.

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HelloAgain

Posts: 537

Jul 13, 2014 1:48pm

SportsAndLady;1635728 wrote:I will be upset with anything other than an NBA title

We have the best player in the world and another all star with a good coach and supporting cast. What else could you ask for?

As much as I want to burn the Flats to the ground in the event that does happen, I just don't see us being ready to win the title this year if we keep the roster as is. I think the Spurs, OKC, and Clippers make short work of us in the finals if we get there this season.

Not endorsing a Love trade necessarily, just think we're looking at maybe 2 or 3 years before we're title contenders while we wait for our guys to develop and get playoff experience if we keep the roster as is.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Jul 13, 2014 1:52pm

As is this Cleveland team is not a championship club

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jul 13, 2014 2:10pm

The more I think about it, the more I want to also try and extract Gorgui Dieng from Minnesota if we trade for Love. He showed a ton of promise once he finally got playing time at the end of last year and would be a useful rim protector, something we don't have. Unfortunately, I doubt it's possible to get both without giving up a ton.

jordo212000

Posts: 10,664

Jul 13, 2014 4:03pm

SportsAndLady;1635728 wrote:I will be upset with anything other than an NBA title

We have the best player in the world and another all star with a good coach and supporting cast. What else could you ask for?

The Heat and Spurs were both better than this year's Cavs team. Without Love, they are good team but not great. They are a year away

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 13, 2014 4:06pm

jordo212000;1635799 wrote:The Heat and Spurs were both better than this year's Cavs team. Without Love, they are good team but not great. They are a year away

Thanks for giving your opinion on the matter. An opinion that no one here cares about or respects. Lol

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 13, 2014 4:09pm

Not to mention you gave an opinion that you are using as fact to "counter" my own expectations on the upcoming year. lol you really are a dipshit jordo.

Rotinaj

Posts: 7,699

Jul 13, 2014 4:29pm

If Wiggins plays as well as people on here think he can I would be disappointed if we aren't at least involved in a game 7 of the ECF.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Jul 13, 2014 4:43pm

SportsAndLady;1635803 wrote:Thanks for giving your opinion on the matter. An opinion that no one here cares about or respects. Lol

He's right. That team is not championship caliber as it is assembled and would get wiped in the Finals just like last time when the Spurs crushed em

robj55

Posts: 9,511

Jul 13, 2014 4:47pm

Lebron will take all the pressure off Wiggins, he won't have to create much of anything on offense. Watching him though he needs to improve his handle and his long range consistency. He shoots a bit of a knuckle ball and misses bad at times.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 13, 2014 4:50pm

Classyposter58;1635816 wrote:He's right. That team is not championship caliber as it is assembled and would get wiped in the Finals just like last time when the Spurs crushed em

You're missing the point dumbass.

I gave my expectations and you idiots are arguing it. It's my expectations lol

Benny The Jet

Posts: 2,987

Jul 13, 2014 4:57pm

Watching the first 2 Summer League games, Bennet isn't afraid to chuck it so far....made a couple DUMB shots at the end of the first game, but seems to be playing with more confidence.

Midstate01

Posts: 14,766

Jul 13, 2014 6:27pm

Bennett has looked very good.

Benny The Jet

Posts: 2,987

Jul 13, 2014 6:34pm

Midstate01;1635844 wrote:Bennett has looked very good.

Had a nice double double today, shot the ball well. Still have to take it with a grain of salt, isn't playing against best competition.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Jul 13, 2014 6:49pm

I'd be pissed if the Cavs don't at least win the East. They probably can't beat the Spurs but then again the Spurs at some point have to start showing their age.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jul 13, 2014 6:52pm

sleeper;1635851 wrote:I'd be pissed if the Cavs don't at least win the East. They probably can't beat the Spurs but then again the Spurs at some point have to start showing their age.

This. If we're not a top 2 seed in this pathetic east it's because lbj was hurt. Should/would have been a top 4 seed last season if not for mr potato head as hc.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Jul 13, 2014 7:41pm

Classyposter58;1635816 wrote:He's right. That team is not championship caliber as it is assembled and would get wiped in the Finals just like last time when the Spurs crushed em

..and this year's Heat teams was wiped WORSE than those Cavs did in 07, but I didnt see anyone not calling them a championship caliber team lulz.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Jul 13, 2014 7:46pm

Pick6;1635858 wrote:..and this year's Heat teams was wiped WORSE than those Cavs did in 07, but I didnt see anyone not calling them a championship caliber team lulz.

The Heat at least were able to win a game. And I didn't think Miami had a chance personally

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Jul 13, 2014 8:39pm

Chicago will be tough this year. Pacers will probably lose Stephenson so they will fall back some. It'll come down to Cleveland and Chicago which Cleveland can beat. Are they good enough to win it all? Probably not unless they grow a lot.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jul 13, 2014 8:44pm

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 6m LeBron James continuing recruiting efforts of Ray Allen, but Allen still undecided on if he'll play again. If so, you can bet it'll be Cavs.

I'm indifferent on Allen. I guess it would be nice to have his shooting in the playoffs, but besides that I don't really care.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

Posts: 7,733

Jul 14, 2014 5:46am

Any one feel Cleveland would be better off long term to not trade for Love? Yeah you'll have to pay him more next year, but I don't want to lose the guys for him.