Archive Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 12, 2014 9:18pm

Commander of Awesome;1635586 wrote:See S&L's post a few back. Thanks.

Huh? What did I say? It's asinine to not give OB credit.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jul 12, 2014 9:20pm

Commander of Awesome;1635586 wrote:See S&L's post a few back. Thanks.

What are you talking about?

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Jul 12, 2014 9:20pm

vball10set;1635588 wrote:Yes you did, but you weren't the only one...just sayin'

OB kind of laid out that letter for us months and months ago. He even hinted it was possible BEFORE the season started. To not give him credit is ridiculous, imo. It wasnt shit spewed against the wall. Its pretty clear it was info coming from Maverick and LeBrons boys.

Commander of Awesome

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Jul 12, 2014 9:21pm

SportsAndLady;1635590 wrote:Huh? What did I say? It's asinine to not give OB credit.

Reverse Jinx

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jul 12, 2014 9:22pm

vball10set;1635588 wrote:Yes you did, but you weren't the only one...just sayin'

It's not that he called LBJ coming back, it's that he came to that conclusion using LRMR sources that were disregarded on here.

lhslep134

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Jul 12, 2014 9:23pm

Commander of Awesome;1635593 wrote:Reverse Jinx

Oh okay gotcha now, my bad I forgot about the reverse jinx. I guess my point still stands though that I think it's ridiculous you won't give OB (or at least his sources) credit.

Mulva

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Jul 12, 2014 9:27pm

Laley23;1635578 wrote:Come on, he said it pretty much exactly how it happened.

Yeah, let's not act like firing Mike Brown, getting the #1 pick, and the Heat losing in the finals had nothing to do with it.

Laley23

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Jul 12, 2014 9:30pm

Commander of Awesome;1635580 wrote:and lol at ohiobucks for being a chest thumper.

Commander of Awesome;1634980 wrote:Pretty much what I've been saying. Lbj ain't coming back and is a thin skinned ***** bitch boy. Do I want him on the cavs? Hell yeah. Do I think he is or ever was considering the cavs? No.

Commander of Awesome;1633868 wrote:Said it all along. He's not coming to Cleveland.

Also, how is this any different then OB1...other than it being incorrect.

Laley23

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Jul 12, 2014 9:31pm

Mulva;1635599 wrote:Yeah, let's not act like firing Mike Brown, getting the #1 pick, and the Heat losing in the finals had nothing to do with it.

You really think he wasnt coming to the Cavs no matter what? So, we are not ignoring word for word what LBJ himself is saying?

Sure, he might be lying. But, come on.

Commander of Awesome

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Jul 12, 2014 9:32pm

Laley23;1635601 wrote:Also, how is this any different then OB1...other than it being incorrect.

Had to reverse jinx it. Hope this helps.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jul 12, 2014 9:32pm

Mulva;1635599 wrote:Yeah, let's not act like firing Mike Brown, getting the #1 pick, and the Heat losing in the finals had nothing to do with it.

Right. It was a perfect storm of his people reaching out early enough to get the wheels spinning, Heat looking not only beatable but unsustainable, and Cavs' situation very lucky and fluid (I mean 3/4 #1's?).

Who cares though, WE HAVE LEBRON AHHHHHHHHHH

lhslep134

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Jul 12, 2014 9:34pm

Laley23;1635603 wrote:You really think he wasnt coming to the Cavs no matter what? So, we are not ignoring word for word what LBJ himself is saying?

.

I don't think you can unequivocally say one or or another what he would have done, it's somewhere in between. JMO

Laley23

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Jul 12, 2014 9:34pm

Commander of Awesome;1635604 wrote:Had to reverse jinx it. Hope this helps.

Im all about the reverse jinx, but thats not what you were doing. At least not the whole time.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Jul 12, 2014 9:34pm

Laley23;1635603 wrote:You really think he wasnt coming to the Cavs no matter what? So, we are not ignoring word for word what LBJ himself is saying?

Sure, he might be lying. But, come on.

I would say 0% chance LeBron leaves instead of going for 4 straight, yes. I also haven't seen a single quote of him saying he was coming back "no matter what".

Laley23

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Jul 12, 2014 9:36pm

lhslep134;1635606 wrote:I don't think you can unequivocally say one or or another what he would have done, it's somewhere in between. JMO

I agree. But I will give someone the benefit of the doubt next time when their "scenario" played out about 100% to what he predicted 6 months ago.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Jul 12, 2014 11:42pm

lhslep134;1635595 wrote:Oh okay gotcha now, my bad I forgot about the reverse jinx. I guess my point still stands though that I think it's ridiculous you won't give OB (or at least his sources) credit.

Reps for acknowledging a reverse jinx.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Jul 13, 2014 4:24am

I was chest thumping for sure. But it was mostly because I have been drunk for the last 48 hours due to sheer happiness. Nothing was guaranteed when it came to Lebron, but I certainly didnt think Maverick would lie to us, he had said he genuinely has wanted to come back for a while.

Regardless. Now it's a matter of getting Love without giving up Wiggins.

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vball10set

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Jul 13, 2014 7:03am

ohiobucks1;1635676 wrote:I
Regardless. Now it's a matter of getting Love without giving up Wiggins.

This.

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Footwedge

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Jul 13, 2014 7:54am

Mulva;1635599 wrote:Yeah, let's not act like firing Mike Brown, getting the #1 pick, and the Heat losing in the finals had nothing to do with it.

Had nothing to do with these. Lebron was coming home regardless. Read the essay...he listed the reasons

Pick6

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Jul 13, 2014 10:35am

I give OB credit, but I definitely remember him saying this past season that the chances of Bron coming back weren't looking good. I seem to remember the storyline being: He's interested-> more than likely not going to happen -> he's interested.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Jul 13, 2014 10:47am

Pick6;1635699 wrote:I give OB credit, but I definitely remember him saying this past season that the chances of Bron coming back weren't looking good. I seem to remember the storyline being: He's interested-> more than likely not going to happen -> he's interested.

This is what I recall as well.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jul 13, 2014 11:36am

Deng rumored to be favoring Miami. We should get their first round pick next year, as they are definitely a playoff team.

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slingshot4ever

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Jul 13, 2014 11:47am

Everything I read talks about us having 3 1st round picks next year. Outside of their own and Miami's, who else's do we have the rights to??

lhslep134

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Jul 13, 2014 11:57am

slingshot4ever;1635708 wrote:Everything I read talks about us having 3 1st round picks next year. Outside of their own and Miami's, who else's do we have the rights to??

Memphis' protected 1-5 and 15-20. Gotta root for Memphis to miss the playoffs and not win the lottery.

Here's a comprehensive list of teams and their future picks

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

SportsAndLady

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Jul 13, 2014 12:10pm

6th, 14th, and 30th picks sounds about right.