IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Aug 26, 2014 9:42pm
We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation?HelloAgain;1647815 wrote:He could also ask how the presence of a dominant big man allowed him to win 5 titles.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 26, 2014 11:22pm
I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally.IggyPride00;1647820 wrote:We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 26, 2014 11:58pm
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 27, 2014 12:03am
Glad people are still asking the basketball opinions of a guy who let David Kahn run his organization for 5 years.SportsAndLady;1647867 wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11415027
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Aug 27, 2014 6:13am
The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.SportsAndLady;1647867 wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11415027
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 27, 2014 7:32am
Agreed. That came across as sour grapes. Now Love could crash & burn (highly doubtful) but, as HelloAgain said, pretty skeptical of a guys' opinion who has had about as much success as an owners as the recent owners of the Browns.ernest_t_bass;1647875 wrote:The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.
From that article, my belief is that Love just has to be a "decent" defender. He doesn't need to make the NBA All Defensive Team for the Cavs to be very successful.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 27, 2014 7:33am
And probably THE best passer, in transition, for a big man in the game, which LBJ & Kyrie should thrive off of.HelloAgain;1647859 wrote:I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Aug 27, 2014 8:07am
We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 27, 2014 8:08am
Our owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 27, 2014 8:08am
Hopefully. I remember when everyone said the celtics big 3 was going to be a defensive liability, and they turned out just fine.Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 27, 2014 8:14am
At pinnacle, Cavs at +282. Next highest favorite is San Antonio at +392. Cavs sitting as a strong favorite with better than even money of reaching the NBA finals. I think the defense will be fine. People like Love and Kyrie will step that end up because they have the opportunity of winning it all.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 27, 2014 9:23am
Our owner also found out his star player was leaving on national TV in exchange for 2 mid 20's first round draft picks 5 years later. Glen Taylor got back to back #1 overall picks, the best prospect since Lebron, and a talented PF in Thaddeus Young for a player who informed the Wolves he was leaving after this year anyway.like_that;1647885 wrote:Our owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
As far as his comments, I don't disagree entirely but Love might change his defensive attitude when playing on a high profile team with the best player in the world.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Aug 27, 2014 9:54am
Wiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Aug 27, 2014 11:18am
I'm getting annoyed that tickets haven't become available yet. Any timetable on when we can expect them to be available?
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Aug 27, 2014 11:53am
Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 27, 2014 12:06pm
I didn't stutter.sportchampps;1647903 wrote:Wiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Aug 27, 2014 2:55pm
George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.
I can't fucking wait for the season.
I can't fucking wait for the season.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 27, 2014 3:01pm
Me too. Love or not, I'm stoked to have Lebron back.ohiobucks1;1648073 wrote:George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.
I can't fucking wait for the season.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 27, 2014 10:32pm
Cavsssss...are gonna be filthy!!
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Aug 28, 2014 1:18am
It's got to be tough to get in the mind to play hard nosed defense night in and night out when your team stinks. I've never really thought about it but I wonder how many all defensive team guards weren't on pretty good teams.Heretic;1647967 wrote:Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.
He's got the athletic ability to play lock down d so I believe he can turn it around.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 31, 2014 5:54pm
Kyries defense might improve on a great team (ie, team USA), but it appears Mr. Top 26's does not...
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Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Aug 31, 2014 6:21pm
Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?Laley23;1649440 wrote:Kyries defense might improve on a great team (ie, team USA), but it appears Mr. Top 26's does not...
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Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Aug 31, 2014 6:33pm
He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 31, 2014 6:55pm
An uncontrolled close-out is 10x better than standing in one spot, not helping, continuing to not move while your player floats to the corner, still not moving an inch as your player catches and makes a 3.Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
I mean, thats despicable effort in a rec league lol. And I like Harden.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Aug 31, 2014 7:37pm
Oh, OK. That's significantly better defense, then.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1649457 wrote:He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.