enigmaax;1635011 wrote:I would really like you to point out the CBA wording that addresses players talking amongst themselves. The Anti-Collusion Clause, as I read it, seems to be specifically about two teams - from an owner/front office perspective - getting together to arrange player treatment detrimental to the player. I can't find anything that says players are not allowed to make collaborative decisions; basically, there is no such thing as "players collusion."

enigmaax;1635011 wrote:I would really like you to point out the CBA wording that addresses players talking amongst themselves. The Anti-Collusion Clause, as I read it, seems to be specifically about two teams - from an owner/front office perspective - getting together to arrange player treatment detrimental to the player. I can't find anything that says players are not allowed to make collaborative decisions; basically, there is no such thing as "players collusion."

SportsAndLady;1635020 wrote:I'm not sure the actual CBA lingo, but players cannot collectively impact their market value. They're free agents, when you drive your price down in order to collaborate and build a team of superstars that are paid under market value, it's collusion.

SportsAndLady;1635020 wrote:I'm not sure the actual CBA lingo, but players cannot collectively impact their market value. They're free agents, when you drive your price down in order to collaborate and build a team of superstars that are paid under market value, it's collusion.

enigmaax;1635011 wrote:I would really like you to point out the CBA wording that addresses players talking amongst themselves. The Anti-Collusion Clause, as I read it, seems to be specifically about two teams - from an owner/front office perspective - getting together to arrange player treatment detrimental to the player. I can't find anything that says players are not allowed to make collaborative decisions; basically, there is no such thing as "players collusion."

jordo212000;1635023 wrote:Yeah.. You aren't going to read what the CBA actually says, but you will go ahead and give your opinion anyways

SportsAndLady;1635027 wrote:There's nothing in the CBA about collusion or reverse-collusion (what Lebron wade and bosh did in 2010) but to synchronize your pay far below what other teams offer (aka your market value) it's affecting the leagues stance on protecting competitive balance in the league.

jordo212000;1635023 wrote:Yeah.. You aren't going to read what the CBA actually says, but you will go ahead and give your opinion anyways

SportsAndLady;1635020 wrote:I'm not sure the actual CBA lingo, but players cannot collectively impact their market value. They're free agents, when you drive your price down in order to collaborate and build a team of superstars that are paid under market value, it's collusion.

enigmaax;1635025 wrote:Well, you are wrong so it isn't surprising that you don't know the CBA lingo (it doesn't exist in that context).

lhslep134;1635031 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. The players themselves are allowed to do whatever they want, talk amongst themselves whenever they want, and talk about whatever they want to talk about.

The only violation of the rules, if provable would be Riley talking to Lebron before July 2010 representing Miami when Lebron was still under contract with Cleveland.

Commander of Awesome;1635030 wrote:Turdo, you dipshit, go back and read this thread/the NBA thread. I've posted the CBA article regarding collusion and the Heat/FA several times little guy. Little effort on your part please.

jordo212000;1635034 wrote:Show us specifically where it says what Lebron is doing is collusion.

Again.. Be careful, do you honestly think Lebron hasn't talked to Kevin Love.. Who is actually still under contract?

Commander of Awesome;1635033 wrote:Not when they're under contract with different organizations talking to other non FAs. Which is what they clearly did dating back to the Olympics.

jordo212000;1635034 wrote:Show us specifically where it says what Lebron is doing is collusion.

Again.. Be careful, do you honestly think Lebron hasn't talked to Kevin Love.. Who is actually still under contract?

lhslep134;1635031 wrote:You don't know what you're talking about. The players themselves are allowed to do whatever they want, talk amongst themselves whenever they want, and talk about whatever they want to talk about.

The only violation of the rules, if provable, would be Riley talking to Lebron before July 2010 representing Miami when Lebron was still under contract with Cleveland.

Commander of Awesome;1635035 wrote:First off, go back and read the links I posted, thanks. Be careful as everything I've said is covered under that you lazy shit stirrer.

Second, no I don't think LBJ has talked to love at all, bc Love isn't going to the Heat. lolfail little guy.

jordo212000;1635036 wrote:Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Melo, etc. are not under contract now. So stop talking about collusion

SportsAndLady;1635038 wrote:
There's no CBA violation, but they are damaging the leagues stance on competitive balance and parity by taking paycuts welllllll below what their value is. All I'm saying.

sleeper;1635041 wrote:It's not collusion provided the players are not currently under contract and provided the players are not working together with a team official. The original decision was absolutely collusion because Lebron, his buddies, and the Heat had a plan in place while being under contract with their respective teams. No way in a week they all just magically decided to take pay cuts and play together.

sleeper;1635041 wrote:It's not collusion provided the players are not currently under contract and provided the players are not working together with a team official. The original decision was absolutely collusion because Lebron, his buddies, and the Heat had a plan in place while being under contract with their respective teams. No way in a week they all just magically decided to take pay cuts and play together.