Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 23, 2014 8:32pm
Am I the only person who has no idea why pine tar is illegal? It doesn't change the pitch. It only gives a pitcher better grip. Batters are allowed to use it or a glove for better grip on the bat. Why can't pitchers have better grip. And yes I know they have rosin but that's not doing anything when it's cold.
Regardless it's the rule and he deserved to be ejected. Though it's walking a fine line for a team to challenge it, since it's probably 100% that one of their pitchers does it too. Though hides it much better
Regardless it's the rule and he deserved to be ejected. Though it's walking a fine line for a team to challenge it, since it's probably 100% that one of their pitchers does it too. Though hides it much better
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 23, 2014 8:43pm
Probably because its just easier to ban all of it for pitchers then try to decipher if its pinetar or pinetar being used as a mixture to cover up something else.Midstate01;1608457 wrote:Am I the only person who has no idea why pine tar is illegal? It doesn't change the pitch. It only gives a pitcher better grip. Batters are allowed to use it or a glove for better grip on the bat. Why can't pitchers have better grip. And yes I know they have rosin but that's not doing anything when it's cold.
Regardless it's the rule and he deserved to be ejected. Though it's walking a fine line for a team to challenge it, since it's probably 100% that one of their pitchers does it too. Though hides it much better
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Apr 24, 2014 12:31am
Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitchLaley23;1608465 wrote:Probably because its just easier to ban all of it for pitchers then try to decipher if its pinetar or pinetar being used as a mixture to cover up something else.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Apr 24, 2014 8:26am
Lol where do you come up with this shit?Classyposter58;1608547 wrote:Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitch
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 24, 2014 8:28am
Yeah, I have NEVER heard that before.GOONx19;1608581 wrote:Lol where do you come up with this shit?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 24, 2014 8:31am
Me either but I don't pay much attention to baseball...SportsAndLady;1608583 wrote:Yeah, I have NEVER heard that before.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 24, 2014 8:37am
You would think Sean Casey and George grande, with how much random out of this world shit they talk about, would talk about that at some point.Ironman92;1608584 wrote:Me either but I don't pay much attention to baseball...
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 24, 2014 8:42am
There is a small chance I heard Curt Schilling say this once last year. It sounds familiar. Or Classy could have said it once before and that's how I remember it lol.GOONx19;1608581 wrote:Lol where do you come up with this shit?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 24, 2014 9:20am
The thing that gets me is, he would've been able to get away with it if it wasn't painfully obvious. Gotta do better...
The theme of the whole story was stupidity, not cheating. Gamesmanship is part of the sport.
The theme of the whole story was stupidity, not cheating. Gamesmanship is part of the sport.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 24, 2014 9:47am
Yeah, I was reading the article on it last night and the Sox guys were basically saying that Farrell had to say something because the dude was just flaunting the tar with the way he had it slabbed on his neck. You see guys have it on their hats all the time, or a guy like Buchholz, who ramps up the sunscreen to pancaked-makeup levels for the same purpose, but doing it that way was just so stupidly obvious, it was hilarious.Azubuike24;1608595 wrote:The thing that gets me is, he would've been able to get away with it if it wasn't painfully obvious. Gotta do better...
The theme of the whole story was stupidity, not cheating. Gamesmanship is part of the sport.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 24, 2014 10:07am
Are you serious?Classyposter58;1608547 wrote:Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitch
I think I have heard it all now.
Because getting hit by a pitch is so prevelant....
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 24, 2014 10:14am
They are too busy tickling each otherSportsAndLady;1608586 wrote:You would think Sean Casey and George grande, with how much random out of this world shit they talk about, would talk about that at some point.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 24, 2014 12:11pm
I see where another Padre is having his second Tommy John surgery.
That is the second one this year for the Pads that a player had his second TJ. The other was the local kid Cory Luebke. Bad luck? Poor guidance from the club on the rehab?
That is the second one this year for the Pads that a player had his second TJ. The other was the local kid Cory Luebke. Bad luck? Poor guidance from the club on the rehab?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 24, 2014 4:21pm
In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.
-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 24, 2014 4:25pm
Just wait till a pitcher pulls an Eddie Harris and uses Vagisil on the ball.....
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 24, 2014 4:27pm
I dont know, I guess when I played I never really worried about getting hit.Laley23;1608812 wrote:In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.
-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
If a pitcher would have better control with the pine tar then I guess one could say he should be able to paint the corners of the zone much better and more often, and maybe give you a mph or two more on a FB or more break on the CB with the better grip. That, as a hitter, would be more 'worrisome' than the occassional HBP
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 24, 2014 6:32pm
That's less than 1/2 a tonLaley23;1608812 wrote:In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.
-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 24, 2014 6:35pm
You're less than half a ton.Ironman92;1608852 wrote:That's less than 1/2 a ton
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 24, 2014 6:36pm
ton = 2000 lbs I believe.Ironman92;1608852 wrote:That's less than 1/2 a ton
I dont know...do those five avg 200 lbs?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 24, 2014 9:18pm
Glanville is ultra skinny and Reynolds is a good bit under 200
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 24, 2014 9:19pm
I'm less than 1/10th of a tonRotinaj;1608854 wrote:You're less than half a ton.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 25, 2014 3:17pm
Thank Goodness
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 25, 2014 3:30pm
Are you calling me fat?!?!??!!?!?!Ironman92;1608895 wrote:I'm less than 1/10th of a ton
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 25, 2014 10:19pm
How he typically plays the game
http://m.mlb.com/video/v32372109/sdwsh-harper-smacks-a-basesclearing-triple?partnerId=as_mlb_20140426_22725384
http://m.mlb.com/video/v32372109/sdwsh-harper-smacks-a-basesclearing-triple?partnerId=as_mlb_20140426_22725384
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 26, 2014 10:07pm