gut;1598366 wrote:Is he? Or is that an anomaly that puts him in elite company?
Again, let me be clear since you simpleton's have trouble processing....Izzo only has one title so he's not elite. That's fair. But he's been to 6+ Final Fours, which makes him elite.
Nobody here is claiming that Izzo is not elite. He's just not an all-time legend in the same sense that guys like K or Roy Williams or Jim Calhoun or Rick Pitino are.
Marv Levy took every team he coached to the Super Bowl from 1990 to 1993. Is he and those Buffalo Bills teams remembered more for getting to all of those Super Bowls or for coming up short so many times?
What we "simpletons" are saying, you, great purveyor of knowledge and truth, is that while Izzo certainly deserves praise for getting to six Final Fours and winning a title in 2000, all those Final Fours also mean that he has come up short on his profession's biggest stage more than most. That should also be taken into account. So, yeah, I'd like to see another championship run -- other than the one 15 years ago -- before we start anointing him the next John Wooden. Tom Izzo is not some young, up-and-comer who has a whole career ahead of him. He turns 60 this year. How many more years does he have left?
gut wrote:]I'm just not seeing a statistically significant difference between 2 titles in 7 Final Four trips and 1 title.
What if Florida had beaten Michigan State in the 2000 national title game? How would that change your overall perception of Izzo? The game amounted to just 40 minutes of his coaching career, but a loss in that game would give Izzo zero titles in six Final Four appearances. Would Izzo still get the same level of admiration he does today?
