St. Patrick's Day parade and the gays

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Mar 17, 2014 11:21 AM
thavoice;1591968 wrote:and for pedophile priests is is NORMAL to diddle lil boys.

Just because that is "normal" for her doesnt make it right.
Lol. The gays I am referring to are involved in consensual relationships. They are not out there raping and molesting people. Terrible comparison. My sister's relationship is exactly like mine. They are in love, they spend time together, they hope to build a life together.
Mar 17, 2014 11:21am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:26 AM
dlazz;1591972 wrote:Normal is a poor term. Deviant is a better term, in that she strays from the accepted social norms. (again, not necessarily a bad thing)

P.S. Is she hot?

I agree with this. But thavoice specifically said "normal people." I take great issue with someone saying a loved one or a friend is not a normal person. Their sexual orientation may not be the norm, but they are people living life just like the rest of us. Who someone loves should be not matter in the least.

And I think my sister is beautiful, obviously. But she is not a lipstick lesbian.
Mar 17, 2014 11:26am
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Mar 17, 2014 12:18 PM
The gays I am referring to are involved in consensual relationships. They are not out there raping and molesting people. Terrible comparison.
This. Pedophiia is a sexual deviancy/sociopathic disease. Homosexuality has not been considered this since the early 1980's. Get into the 21st century people.

That said, i think the parade organizers have every right to ban contoversial/political agendas being put forth and using the parade as a forum to advance those agendas.
Mar 17, 2014 12:18pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:25 PM
queencitybuckeye;1591899 wrote:It doesn't help a cause to attempt to make every single event about that cause.
I agree with this. I think, in the grand scheme of things, most people are either apathetic or supportive to varying levels towards gay people and equal rights (in other words, ranging from "meh, doesn't effect me, whatevs" to "100% in support!"). However, when said cause attempts to go out of its way to pound people over the head with what they're trying to accomplish, to me, it almost seems like they're entering PETA-ville and its philosophy of "no attention is bad attention".
Mar 17, 2014 12:25pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:27 PM
HitsRus;1592022 wrote:This. Pedophiia is a sexual deviancy/sociopathic disease. Homosexuality has not been considered this since the early 1980's. Get into the 21st century people.

That said, i think the parade organizers have every right to ban contoversial/political agendas being put forth and using the parade as a forum to advance those agendas.
What do you consider pedophilia, though? I mean, a woman's "body" is ready to reproduce (science) once she menstruates. So, is pedophilia sexual relations before menstruation? Society would label someone a pedophile if they were having relations with someone who is well past menstruation, however not of the "legal" age.
Mar 17, 2014 12:27pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:36 PM
Fab4Runner;1591986 wrote:I agree with this. But thavoice specifically said "normal people." I take great issue with someone saying a loved one or a friend is not a normal person. Their sexual orientation may not be the norm, but they are people living life just like the rest of us. Who someone loves should be not matter in the least.

And I think my sister is beautiful, obviously. But she is not a lipstick lesbian.
Don't listen to thavoice. Sleeper, who is usually obnoxious about his views, has made more sense in this thread than he has.
Mar 17, 2014 12:36pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:38 PM
"That said, i think the parade organizers have every right to ban contoversial/political agendas being put forth"

As every private organization should, their money, their rules, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone and it doesn't seems like this does. It is about tolerance, not acceptance and forced inclusion.
Mar 17, 2014 12:38pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:40 PM
Just go to the parade and have a fuckin' beer. Got damn.
Mar 17, 2014 12:40pm
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ernest_t_bass

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Mar 17, 2014 12:42 PM
reclegend22;1592043 wrote:Just go to the parade and have a fuckin' beer. Got damn.
No way! I ain't got damns, and I sure as shit ain't got no fucks!
Mar 17, 2014 12:42pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:43 PM
Heretic;1592030 wrote:I agree with this. I think, in the grand scheme of things, most people are either apathetic or supportive to varying levels towards gay people and equal rights (in other words, ranging from "meh, doesn't effect me, whatevs" to "100% in support!"). However, when said cause attempts to go out of its way to pound people over the head with what they're trying to accomplish, to me, it almost seems like they're entering PETA-ville and its philosophy of "no attention is bad attention".
Fucking this. And I fit into your category of not giving a shit but still support whatever it is they want. But when every popular social gathering is turned into an opportunity for them to promote their views -- and "protest" instead when they can't -- it gets real annoying real quick. There's no two-way street about it, either. If the parade organizers would have relented and allowed them to carry signs, they'd be heralded as advocates for the GLBT cause. But when they say no, it's unfair, discriminating, and must be protested. The GLBT's involved here are either going to win by promoting their cause, or win by being the victim.
Mar 17, 2014 12:43pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:44 PM
Fab4Runner;1591986 wrote:...Their sexual orientation may not be the norm, ...
Not that I am necessarily agreeing with it but isn't that all that he said? Aren't you actually agreeing with him?
Mar 17, 2014 12:44pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:48 PM
Con_Alma;1592047 wrote:Not that I am necessarily agreeing with it but is that all that he said? Aren't you actually agreeing with him?
It seems fairly obvious that he's using the word in a different context.
Mar 17, 2014 12:48pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:49 PM
Con_Alma;1592047 wrote:Not that I am necessarily agreeing with it but is that all that he said? Aren't you actually agreeing with him?
No. He said "normal people." Being a redhead is not the norm, but I have a feeling he wouldn't categorize them the same way he would gays.
Mar 17, 2014 12:49pm
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Mar 17, 2014 12:59 PM
Fab4Runner;1592049 wrote:No. He said "normal people." Being a redhead is not the norm, but I have a feeling he wouldn't categorize them the same way he would gays.
Gingers don't have souls.
Mar 17, 2014 12:59pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:22 PM
Fab4Runner;1591964 wrote:It's normal for her. It would be completely abnormal for her to date a man. My point is that she is a normal human being who does all of the same things that other normal humans do. Most people have romantic relationships, and she is one of those people.
Except she has sex with girls. That isn't normal. I mean come on; this shouldn't even be an arguement but we have the PC "all people are special" garbage policing biological thought.
Mar 17, 2014 1:22pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:41 PM
Fab4Runner;1592049 wrote:No. He said "normal people." Being a redhead is not the norm, but I have a feeling he wouldn't categorize them the same way he would gays.
Didn't you do the same also, by saying their sexual orientation may not be the norm???

I guess I don't understand.
Mar 17, 2014 1:41pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:42 PM
queencitybuckeye;1592048 wrote:It seems fairly obvious that he's using the word in a different context.
I'll have to read it again. They were both referring to sexual orientation. It wasn't that obvious to me. Sorry.
Mar 17, 2014 1:42pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:43 PM
Gays be trippin
Mar 17, 2014 1:43pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:48 PM
Con_Alma;1592066 wrote: I guess I don't understand.
Shocking.
Mar 17, 2014 1:48pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:51 PM
dlazz;1592072 wrote:Shocking.
For Con Alma's benefit, I'll translate to his native language.

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Mar 17, 2014 1:51pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:52 PM
Con_Alma;1592066 wrote:Didn't you also by saying their sexual orientation may not be the norm???

I guess I don't understand.
It is not the norm. But neither is having red hair. Or having blue eyes, or being a professional athlete, or owning a home with a pool. There are a lot of things that aren't normal. I highly doubt that thavoice would refer to these people the same way he refers to gays. There is ONE thing about my sister that is not the norm. To me, that doesn't make her some abnormal weirdo. Everyone has a trait, habit, etc. that is not the norm. Do we go around calling them not normal?
Mar 17, 2014 1:52pm
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Mar 17, 2014 1:57 PM
Fab4Runner;1592075 wrote:It is not the norm. But neither is having red hair. Or having blue eyes, or being a professional athlete, or owning a home with a pool. There are a lot of things that aren't normal. I highly doubt that thavoice would refer to these people the same way he refers to gays. There is ONE thing about my sister that is not the norm. To me, that doesn't make her some abnormal weirdo. Everyone has a trait, habit, etc. that is not the norm. Do we go around calling them not normal?
...soooooo you both don't think it's the norm.

The conversation wasn't about all the other peculiar things we all do. It was about sexual orientation being on display at the parade....and that's what he commented on....sexual orientation.
Mar 17, 2014 1:57pm
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Mar 17, 2014 2:00 PM
Con_Alma;1592077 wrote:...soooooo you both don't think it's the norm.

The conversation wasn't about all the other peculiar things we all do. It was about sexual orientation being on display at the parade....and that's what he commented on....sexual orientation.
Agree to disagree.
Mar 17, 2014 2:00pm
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Mar 17, 2014 2:00 PM
"But when every popular social gathering is turned into an opportunity for them to promote their view"

To be fair, most folks want to be left alone. Not everybody wants to be the "Jason Collins pioneer" that cheated on his girlfriend for years (and I'm sure she's had every STD test done as a result), and they deserve respect and privacy. I understand the frustration that a guy that acted badly is lauded for his behavior, and I agree that the political movement has gone too far - but the supermajority of gay people don't care and just want to live their lives.
Mar 17, 2014 2:00pm
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Mar 17, 2014 2:02 PM
Fab4Runner;1592079 wrote:Agree to disagree.
I'm not sure we disagree!!!!! I'm just trying to understand your concern. You have both stated it's not the norm but you don't like that fact that he expressed it...even though you agree with him.
Mar 17, 2014 2:02pm