St. Patrick's Day parade and the gays

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friendfromlowry

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Mar 17, 2014 7:50 AM
I've seen more and more uproar over this through the weekend:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/16/lgbt-groups-plan-protests-for-st-patricks-day-parade/

tl;dr: beer companies (Sam Adams, Guiness) and political figures from NYC and Boston protested St. Patrick's day parades because while members of the LGBT community were allowed to march; they were not allowed to identify themselves as gay or carry gay-friendly signs.

So...what's the big deal? It's a St. Patrick's day parade. No one gives a shit about gay-friendly signs. I'll admit I don't pay near enough attention to this kind of stuff, but it seems like the LGBT community has to make this an issue. Are there any other groups or minorities who make such a commotion about promoting their views?
I just don't understand why any and every social event needs to be represented with gay-friendly propaganda? It has absolutely nothing to do with St. Patrick's day.
Parade organizers have said gay groups are not prohibited from marching, but are not allowed to carry gay-friendly signs or identify themselves as LGBT.
Somehow, this equates to discrimination.
Mar 17, 2014 7:50am
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ernest_t_bass

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Mar 17, 2014 8:07 AM
Ghey
Mar 17, 2014 8:07am
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Mar 17, 2014 8:27 AM
Gay Rage is the most powerful force on the planet right now.
Mar 17, 2014 8:27am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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Mar 17, 2014 8:39 AM
Politics board.

And look up the term pyrrhic victory. People discriminate against others all of the time. My wife goes to an all-female club because she doesn't like working out in front of men. Is that discriminatory? Definitely. Is it legal? Probably. Would I be a total jackass if I brought suit against them? 100% correct.
Mar 17, 2014 8:39am
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Mar 17, 2014 9:14 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1591880 wrote:Politics board.
It's a social issue and is not necessarily rooted in politics.

I think it's an interesting issue. As mentioned in this Boston Globe article, parade organizers have
said no to hate groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Westboro Baptist Church. They have barred an organization that said it represented Irish heterosexual pride, an antiabortion organization, and a contingent that wanted to demonstrate against court-mandated school busing, according to Mahoney, the chief marshal.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/03/15/the-south-boston-patrick-day-parade-story-you-haven-heard/1cWGE9P41gWgvCTRodcbRI/story.html

Honestly if I were to organize a German-American parade in my hometown I would be peeved if the LGBT community showed up and acted as if it was their own parade. What's the need to push your message or spread awareness here? For fucks sake there is an openly gay man about to be drafted into the NFL......it's not even about tolerance at this point.

As the organizer goes on to say in the aforementioned article,
“Gay people march in this all the time. Every year. This isn’t the first time,” Wuschke said. “We don’t ban gay people. We ban groups that are trying to make a statement.”
Mar 17, 2014 9:14am
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queencitybuckeye

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Mar 17, 2014 9:31 AM
It doesn't help a cause to attempt to make every single event about that cause.
Mar 17, 2014 9:31am
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thavoice

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Mar 17, 2014 10:05 AM
Normal people should boycott those companies that pulled out of the festivities because of the lack of gayness allowed.
Mar 17, 2014 10:05am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:07 AM
Gay people are the worst. Not everything has to be about making a statement.
Mar 17, 2014 10:07am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:08 AM
I'd think that this is the wrong event to protest since St. Patrick drove all of the gays out of Ireland and into the sea with that big staff of his.
Mar 17, 2014 10:08am
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queencitybuckeye

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Mar 17, 2014 10:09 AM
thavoice;1591926 wrote:Normal people should boycott those companies that pulled out of the festivities because of the lack of gayness allowed.
Gay = more normal than being married to a whore.
Mar 17, 2014 10:09am
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thavoice

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Mar 17, 2014 10:11 AM
queencitybuckeye;1591930 wrote:Gay = more normal than being married to a whore.
Gay certainly is NOT normal at all.
Mar 17, 2014 10:11am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:34 AM
thavoice;1591932 wrote:Gay certainly is NOT normal at all.
Idiotic statement.
Mar 17, 2014 10:34am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:36 AM
Fab4Runner;1591945 wrote:Idiotic statement.
If its normal, why isn't there a group dedicated to heterosexuality? It's not normal; is it bad? No. But normal? No.
Mar 17, 2014 10:36am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:40 AM
sleeper;1591946 wrote:If its normal, why isn't there a group dedicated to heterosexuality? It's not normal; is it bad? No. But normal? No.
My sister is absolutely normal. She wakes up every day, goes to work, pays her bills, eats, drinks, socializes, etc. just like every other person I know.
Mar 17, 2014 10:40am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:52 AM
Fab4Runner;1591948 wrote:My sister is absolutely normal. She wakes up every day, goes to work, pays her bills, eats, drinks, socializes, etc. just like every other person I know.
And you left out the relevant part that she likes girls. That's not normal.
Mar 17, 2014 10:52am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:54 AM
But I'm sorry, gays think they are special and should be treated differently. They can go fuck themselves. I can't stand because of shit like this; GROW THE FUCK UP.
Mar 17, 2014 10:54am
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Mar 17, 2014 10:56 AM
sleeper;1591962 wrote:And you left out the relevant part that she likes girls. That's not normal.
It's normal for her. It would be completely abnormal for her to date a man. My point is that she is a normal human being who does all of the same things that other normal humans do. Most people have romantic relationships, and she is one of those people.
Mar 17, 2014 10:56am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:00 AM
sleeper;1591963 wrote:But I'm sorry, gays think they are special and should be treated differently. They can go fuck themselves. I can't stand because of shit like this; GROW THE FUCK UP.
Some gays do, but not all. My sister literally did not even know that the SCOTUS said DOMA was unconstitutional until I pointed it out to her. She would love to be married eventually, but she isn't out there protesting or marching.
Mar 17, 2014 11:00am
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thavoice

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Mar 17, 2014 11:01 AM
and for pedophile priests is is NORMAL to diddle lil boys.

Just because that is "normal" for her doesnt make it right.
Mar 17, 2014 11:01am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:03 AM
Not normal doesnt equal bad necessarily. Being 7 foot tall is not normal. I just cant wait for both sides to not care and we can move on. Allow gays to have civil unions and focus on issues that affect everyone.
Mar 17, 2014 11:03am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:05 AM
Awww, look, thavoice is having another of his "THOSE PEOPLE want to be happy?!?!? I'm straight and miserable with my relationship, so FUCK THEM!!!!" moments.
Mar 17, 2014 11:05am
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MontyBrunswick

Mar 17, 2014 11:05 AM
Fab4Runner;1591964 wrote:It's normal for her. It would be completely abnormal for her to date a man. My point is that she is a normal human being who does all of the same things that other normal humans do. Most people have romantic relationships, and she is one of those people.
Normal is a poor term. Deviant is a better term, in that she strays from the accepted social norms. (again, not necessarily a bad thing)

P.S. Is she hot?
Mar 17, 2014 11:05am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:07 AM
thavoice;1591968 wrote:and for pedophile priests is is NORMAL to diddle lil boys.

Just because that is "normal" for her doesnt make it right.
What a fucking terrible comparison. Lol
Mar 17, 2014 11:07am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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Mar 17, 2014 11:07 AM
There is nothing wrong with being gay - guys or women (and some guys like that in women - I'm not sure, but I'm willing to listen to arguments). There is something wrong with being treated specially because of it.
Mar 17, 2014 11:07am
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Mar 17, 2014 11:07 AM
thavoice;1591968 wrote:and for pedophile priests is is NORMAL to diddle lil boys.

Just because that is "normal" for her doesnt make it right.
And just because it is not normal doesnt make wrong.
Mar 17, 2014 11:07am