lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 4, 2014 3:35pm
Let's go Horned Frogs!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 4, 2014 4:04pm
Prove that the best teams are in the same conference. You can't. However you have a system in each conference that determines the best team; how can you be the best team in the country and not the best team in your own conference?sherm03;1660378 wrote:I would disagree with the first part. In a four team playoff, it's even more important to assure you have the top teams in there. It's not crazy to think that the two best teams are from one conference. In an 8 team playoff you can give each conference champ an auto-bid and fill the remaining with at-large teams (which would help to account for the two best teams coming from the same conference). But in a 4 team playoff, I think all spots are at-large. Just my opinion, though.
As for your second part, I agree 100%. Big 12 does need to have a championship game.
If the SEC teams think they are being treated unfairly, they are free to move to another weak conference. But really, if your team is not Alabama don't be surprised when you become a middle of the road team in another conference.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 4, 2014 4:08pm
Drake just got his leg completely fucked up for Bama....damn that was nasty. Can't fathom him returning this year.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 4, 2014 4:14pm
Umm...upsets happen, bro. This is sports. The best team doesn't always win (see OSU vs. VaTech earlier this year). And I'm not saying that you are the best team in the country without being the best in your conference. But I am saying that you COULD be better than the best in every other conference without being the best in your own conference.sleeper;1660384 wrote:Prove that the best teams are in the same conference. You can't. However you have a system in each conference that determines the best team; how can you be the best team in the country and not the best team in your own conference?
If the SEC teams think they are being treated unfairly, they are free to move to another weak conference. But really, if your team is not Alabama don't be surprised when you become a middle of the road team in another conference.
If the point of the playoffs is to put the 4 best teams into a playoff to determine a champion, then the 4 best teams need to go in regardless of conference affiliation.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 4, 2014 4:16pm
I saw his foot and thought it was an ankle, but on replay I think it might have been his knee, and his entire lower leg was just rotated.Ironman92;1660387 wrote:Drake just got his leg completely fucked up for Bama....damn that was nasty. Can't fathom him returning this year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 4, 2014 4:38pm
Players running away from the view of itMulva;1660390 wrote:I saw his foot and thought it was an ankle, but on replay I think it might have been his knee, and his entire lower leg was just rotated.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 4, 2014 4:46pm
Interesting coming from a fan of an independent.sherm03;1660378 wrote:
As for your second part, I agree 100%. Big 12 does need to have a championship game.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 4, 2014 4:58pm
I know it won't last but would like to see TCU find a way but know OU will pull away a bit in the 4th
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 4, 2014 5:05pm
We've had this lame "debate" before. Your logic follows that there is no true champion because upsets happen. Grow up.sherm03;1660388 wrote:Umm...upsets happen, bro. This is sports. The best team doesn't always win (see OSU vs. VaTech earlier this year). And I'm not saying that you are the best team in the country without being the best in your conference. But I am saying that you COULD be better than the best in every other conference without being the best in your own conference.
If the point of the playoffs is to put the 4 best teams into a playoff to determine a champion, then the 4 best teams need to go in regardless of conference affiliation.
SEC fans can move conferences if they want to cry about it.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 4, 2014 5:17pm
So, in a conference like the B1G or SEC, where there are 2 divisions and not everyone plays each other, you can truly NOT be the best team if you are the runner-up? Look at Wisconsin's schedule this year and tell me that they could potentially NOT be the 2nd best team in the conference even if they make the B1G title game?sleeper;1660384 wrote:Prove that the best teams are in the same conference. You can't. However you have a system in each conference that determines the best team; how can you be the best team in the country and not the best team in your own conference?
If the SEC teams think they are being treated unfairly, they are free to move to another weak conference. But really, if your team is not Alabama don't be surprised when you become a middle of the road team in another conference.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 4, 2014 5:35pm
Who cares about second best team? The point of a championship is to determine the best team and we do that through a championship system. If you are the best team in your conference, you will win your conference championship.Azubuike24;1660398 wrote:So, in a conference like the B1G or SEC, where there are 2 divisions and not everyone plays each other, you can truly NOT be the best team if you are the runner-up? Look at Wisconsin's schedule this year and tell me that they could potentially NOT be the 2nd best team in the conference even if they make the B1G title game?
And you make a good point; teams don't play all the teams so a conference is the best way to narrow down the best teams across the country. Can't be the best team in your conference? Then you can't be the best in the country. I beg these SEC fans to send their overrated trash teams up north to the B1G and watch them get shit stomped year in year out by Indiana.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 4, 2014 5:55pm
Notre Dame gets away with obvious pass interference for an INT.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 4, 2014 5:56pm
Almost worse than Marcus Lattimore's. He took a shot to the inner thigh, just as guy was pushing on his outer hip on the same leg. It was like pushing on one side of a twig at the top and the other side at the bottom at the same time. Awful. Depending where that break is, he's done forever. You could hear him screaming on the TV and he cried the whole way on the stretcher.Ironman92;1660387 wrote:Drake just got his leg completely fucked up for Bama....damn that was nasty. Can't fathom him returning this year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 4, 2014 6:01pm
I watched ONE play in this game and Stanford threw a 35 yard pass down the sideline and ND player grabbed the WR left shoulder and pulled on it as ball was coming in...ref had a bad angle and no call.Mulva;1660406 wrote:Notre Dame gets away with obvious pass interference for an INT.
That'll be the last play I watch.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Oct 4, 2014 6:03pm
Don't matter we can't put the fucking ball in the end zone or catch a snap on a fg. They are going to blow this ganeMulva;1660406 wrote:Notre Dame gets away with obvious pass interference for an INT.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 4, 2014 6:12pm
ND tied with The Cardinal 7-7 in the 4th. Brian Kelly has just secured his legacy in the ND hall of fame.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Oct 4, 2014 6:12pm
Wow, one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time on the Notre Dame catch review. Makes you wonder...
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 4, 2014 6:16pm
Ok.ernest_t_bass;1660413 wrote:ND tied with The Cardinal 7-7 in the 4th. Brian Kelly has just secured his legacy in the ND hall of fame.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Oct 4, 2014 6:16pm
Tough to think the refs didn't have an agenda there. Basically handed ND the game AFTER being allowed to look at it on replay.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 4, 2014 6:17pm
Wisconsin's quarterbacks are so bad it's going to completely overshadow how good Melvin Gordon is. 259 yards for 9.6 per carry today, and they're probably going down to Northwestern.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Oct 4, 2014 6:32pm
Ole Miss about to take the lead against Alabama. They have just been doing whatever they've wanted in the passing game in the 4th quarter.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 4, 2014 6:35pm
330 games have not disappointed. I don't know what to watch.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 4, 2014 6:35pm
It's crazy how good Wisconsin has been over the last decade with, outside of a few players, garbage QB's and garbage WR's.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 4, 2014 6:38pm
Stanford... smh. How do you give that up with 8 guys in coverage?
He was wide open the entire play.
He was wide open the entire play.
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Oct 4, 2014 6:38pm
Counted at least 5 obvious holding calls in the Notre Dame 'game winning" drive. Absolutely atrocious.