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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Oct 3, 2014 1:43am
This is going to be a crazy weekend.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 3, 2014 2:14am
BEAR THE F***K DOWn campus is crazy (I came down for the game/weekend)
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 3, 2014 9:31am
Arizona would win the SEC West pretty easily.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 9:32am
Well, the Oregon loss now opens the door for a one-loss B1G champ for the playoff.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 9:35am
How so? If Oregon wins out, wouldn't it be safe to assume that a 1-loss Oregon team would still get in over a 1-loss B1G champ? Especially if Michigan State wins the B1G. If Ohio State wins the B1G, they'll look at whose loss would be considered worse. And I would say a loss to VaTech (who has shown they are pretty fucking horrible) is much worse than a loss to Arizona (who is currently 5-0).ernest_t_bass;1659935 wrote:Well, the Oregon loss now opens the door for a one-loss B1G champ for the playoff.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 9:36am
I said it opens the door. I didn't say it's a given. Reading is hard.sherm03;1659938 wrote:How so? If Oregon wins out, wouldn't it be safe to assume that a 1-loss Oregon team would still get in over a 1-loss B1G champ? Especially if Michigan State wins the B1G. If Ohio State wins the B1G, they'll look at whose loss would be considered worse. And I would say a loss to VaTech (who has shown they are pretty fucking horrible) is much worse than a loss to Arizona (who is currently 5-0).
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 9:37am
They have no better chance than they did before the game started yesterday. An undefeated or a 1-loss Oregon team still gets in over a 1-loss B1G champ.ernest_t_bass;1659943 wrote:I said it opens the door. I didn't say it's a given. Reading is hard.
Thinking is hard.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 9:42am
Right now... yes. At the end of the season... you never know. Arizona can go on to lose the rest of their games. If OSU puts up 60 pts. per game the rest of the season and blows out everyone, and Oregon has close games, it's going to change things. Bottom line...sherm03;1659946 wrote:They have no better chance than they did before the game started yesterday. An undefeated or a 1-loss Oregon team still gets in over a 1-loss B1G champ.
Thinking is hard.
the Oregon loss now opens the door for a one-loss B1G champ for the playoff.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 9:43am
Well, whatever you gotta do to keep hope alive, I guess.ernest_t_bass;1659949 wrote:Right now... yes. At the end of the season... you never know. Arizona can go on to lose the rest of their games. If OSU puts up 60 pts. per game the rest of the season and blows out everyone, and Oregon has close games, it's going to change things. Bottom line...
the Oregon loss now opens the door for a one-loss B1G champ for the playoff.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 9:44am
sherm03;1659950 wrote:Well, whatever you gotta do to keep hope alive, I guess.
Well, to say there is a 0% chance a B1G team gets in the playoff (after the Oregon loss) is idiotic. It's a long season.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 3, 2014 9:47am
They would clownstomp every team by at least a last second 62 yard field goal.sleeper;1659933 wrote:Arizona would win the SEC West pretty easily.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 9:47am
Oh I said 0% chance? And I'm the one that has problems reading? I said they are in the exact same position as they were before the game started. That is not idiotic. They still need help. You said it yourself. OSU would need to blow out everyone on the schedule, Oregon would need to have close games, Arizona would need to drop a few. That's not exactly controlling your own destiny. They have the same amount of chance at the playoff this morning as they did 24 hours ago at this time.ernest_t_bass;1659953 wrote:Well, to say there is a 0% chance a B1G team gets in the playoff (after the Oregon loss) is idiotic. It's a long season.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 9:48am
Agree to disagree.sherm03;1659956 wrote:Oh I said 0% chance? And I'm the one that has problems reading? I said they are in the exact same position as they were before the game started. That is not idiotic. They still need help. You said it yourself. OSU would need to blow out everyone on the schedule, Oregon would need to have close games, Arizona would need to drop a few. That's not exactly controlling your own destiny. They have the same amount of chance at the playoff this morning as they did 24 hours ago at this time.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 3, 2014 9:50am
There will be a B1G team in the playoff. At worst, the B1G is the second best conference in the country. 4 losses in the B1G is equivalent to 1 loss in any other conference outside of the SEC.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 3, 2014 9:51am
Time will tell.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 9:59am
Come on man. Let's be real here. You understand what college football is right now and which conferences people are blowing. The more accurate statement would be, "Well Oregon's loss opens the door for two SEC teams in the playoffs."ernest_t_bass;1659957 wrote:Agree to disagree.
That has a better shot of happening now.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Oct 3, 2014 10:04am
? It does? I would think a 1-loss Oregon team would top a 1-loss B1G champ team (assuming 1 SEC champ, 1 Big XII champ, and an undefeated FSU ACC champ). And that's coming from a Big Ten guy.ernest_t_bass;1659935 wrote:Well, the Oregon loss now opens the door for a one-loss B1G champ for the playoff.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 10:06am
I disagree that the chances are the same. I think the chance of a 1 loss B1G team getting in is better now. Doesn't necessarily mean it's likely, but the chances are now greater.sherm03;1659970 wrote:Come on man. Let's be real here. You understand what college football is right now and which conferences people are blowing. The more accurate statement would be, "Well Oregon's loss opens the door for two SEC teams in the playoffs."
That has a better shot of happening now.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Oct 3, 2014 10:07am
This.sherm03;1659970 wrote:Come on man. Let's be real here. You understand what college football is right now and which conferences people are blowing. The more accurate statement would be, "Well Oregon's loss opens the door for two SEC teams in the playoffs."
That has a better shot of happening now.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 3, 2014 10:11am
I agree with ETB. Now Oregon only needs to lose 1 more game and whatever B1G team gets in can lose 0. The chances have increased by .001%ernest_t_bass;1659973 wrote:I disagree that the chances are the same. I think the chance of a 1 loss B1G team getting in is better now. Doesn't necessarily mean it's likely, but the chances are now greater.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 3, 2014 10:44am
Ohio State needs to worry more about it's line and getting better than a playoff berth. Oregon was just being Oregon last night
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 3, 2014 10:46am
I don't think OSU is "worried" about a playoff birth. As a fan, I'm not concerned with it at all.
Too many holes, they aren't good enough.
Too many holes, they aren't good enough.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 3, 2014 10:47am
To say the chances of a B1G team making the playoffs are the same before and after Oregon losing is short-sighted. For starters, a 1 loss Oregon gets in over B1G but not a 2 loss Oregon. Oregon now has a lot better chance to lose 2 games than they did before yesterday. Second, it takes away another unbeaten, which undoubtedly moves the needle, even if only a little.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 3, 2014 11:07am
No, but no. Their chances are the same.lhslep134;1659994 wrote:To say the chances of a B1G team making the playoffs are the same before and after Oregon losing is short-sighted. For starters, a 1 loss Oregon gets in over B1G but not a 2 loss Oregon. Oregon now has a lot better chance to lose 2 games than they did before yesterday. Second, it takes away another unbeaten, which undoubtedly moves the needle, even if only a little.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 3, 2014 1:13pm
lhslep134;1659994 wrote:To say the chances of a B1G team making the playoffs are the same before and after Oregon losing is short-sighted. For starters, a 1 loss Oregon gets in over B1G but not a 2 loss Oregon. Oregon now has a lot better chance to lose 2 games than they did before yesterday. Second, it takes away another unbeaten, which undoubtedly moves the needle, even if only a little.
I completely disagree. Oregon was always considered a potential playoff team because it was assumed they would be the undefeated Pac-12 champion. There are still undefeated Pac-12 teams out there, who could turn out to be undefeated Pac-12 champions. Oregon's loss did nothing to the chances of a 1-loss B1G team making the playoff because Oregon was basically a placeholder for "Pac-12 Champ" in the playoff picture.ernest_t_bass;1660004 wrote:No, but no. Their chances are the same.
So I'll say it again, the B1G champ has the exact same chance at making the playoffs right now as they did 24 hours ago.