Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 5, 2014 10:53am
The MAC Title and Greatest Whore of the Midwest Title are two different things. Handed out by the same group, yes, but still two different things.sleeper;1682536 wrote:My grandma won those too, your point?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2014 11:45am
The point is pointing out Brian Kelly's average achievements and trying to portray him as some sort of super coach is ridiculous. Kelly is NOT a good coach; he won 2 average conferences at best and then went to ND where he's won nothing except get blown out against any real competition. His biggest accomplishment is getting blown out in the title game against granted a far superior team. When he can come into a real conference(PAC12, B1G, SEC, etc.) and win something other than a plastic COY award then I'll give him some credit. Again, he's an average coach who is responsible for the negligent death of a young man that was swept under the rug, he deserves nothing.Heretic;1682546 wrote:The MAC Title and Greatest Whore of the Midwest Title are two different things. Handed out by the same group, yes, but still two different things.
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Sonofanump
Dec 5, 2014 12:55pm
You stated ANYTHING. Of course your typical rebuttal was weak. What you really meant, but were unable to elaborate was that he has not won a major conference championship. I never stated he was a superior coach, he has won at every level he has been at. I am not a Kelly "supporter" and won't defend any action that he or his admin took in regards to Declan.sleeper;1682536 wrote:My grandma won those too, your point?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 5, 2014 1:07pm
Checking in from Arizona's campus, got the day off to come down from Phoenix to watch the game at the campus bars. BEAR DOWN
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2014 1:23pm
Why bother elaborating? I'm sure Brady Hoke won a few high school championships doesn't mean he's a good coach. Next time I'll explain common sense and how it works rather than just assuming you have the intelligence to differentiate something relevant vs. irrelevant.Sonofanump;1682622 wrote:You stated ANYTHING. Of course your typical rebuttal was weak. What you really meant, but were unable to elaborate was that he has not won a major conference championship. I never stated he was a superior coach, he has won at every level he has been at. I am not a Kelly "supporter" and won't defend any action that he or his admin took in regards to Declan.
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Sonofanump
Dec 5, 2014 2:01pm
Says the guy proclaiming McDonalds and Bud Lite.sleeper;1682647 wrote:Why bother elaborating? I'm sure Brady Hoke won a few high school championships doesn't mean he's a good coach. Next time I'll explain common sense and how it works rather than just assuming you have the intelligence to differentiate something relevant vs. irrelevant.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2014 2:05pm
I likely have more money than you and your entire family combined. Any other questions?Sonofanump;1682667 wrote:Says the guy proclaiming McDonalds and Bud Lite.
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Sonofanump
Dec 5, 2014 2:53pm
Lulz.sleeper;1682670 wrote:I likely have more money than you and your entire family combined. Any other questions?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 5, 2014 2:55pm
Combined.Sonofanump;1682694 wrote:Lulz.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 5, 2014 2:56pm
As suspected, Cowherd doesn't know shit.
Colin Cowherd @ESPN_Colin · 55m55 minutes ago
Michigan fans, the names I hear are encouraging. I am not teasing you. Although his names rhymes w Till Zellicheck.
Colin Cowherd @ESPN_Colin · 55m55 minutes agoMichigan fans, the names I hear are encouraging. I am not teasing you. Although his names rhymes w Till Zellicheck.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 5, 2014 2:58pm
Maybe he and Tom Brady come in as co-head coaches.WebFire;1682699 wrote:As suspected, Cowherd doesn't know shit.
Michigan fans, the names I hear are encouraging. I am not teasing you. Although his names rhymes w Till Zellicheck.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 5, 2014 3:01pm
So, Bill is planning to leave an NFL job where he's become a god-like figure for the NE part of the country to take on the job at an historic college power that's been mired in mediocrity as of late (first, "mediocre" by Michigan expectations and now, "mediocre" by the actual definition of the word).
Makes sense!
Makes sense!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 5, 2014 3:09pm
You forgot to mention getting blown out by Ohio State year after year.Heretic;1682705 wrote:So, Bill is planning to leave an NFL job where he's become a god-like figure for the NE part of the country to take on the job at an historic college power that's been mired in mediocrity as of late (first, "mediocre" by Michigan expectations and now, "mediocre" by the actual definition of the word).
Makes sense!
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 5, 2014 3:15pm
Lord, I just got a visual of a post-game Belicheck press conference after one of those. I won't deny that nothing would be better than his string of one-word answers both before and after the game.sleeper;1682713 wrote:You forgot to mention getting blown out by Ohio State year after year.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 5, 2014 3:18pm
yeah, and then him having to beg 16/17 yr olds to come play for his team.Heretic;1682705 wrote:So, Bill is planning to leave an NFL job where he's become a god-like figure for the NE part of the country to take on the job at an historic college power that's been mired in mediocrity as of late (first, "mediocre" by Michigan expectations and now, "mediocre" by the actual definition of the word).
Makes sense!
AInt happening.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 5, 2014 4:00pm
repsWebFire;1682699 wrote:As suspected, Cowherd doesn't know shit.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 5, 2014 9:28pm
Oregon goes down the field rather easily and then stalls out at the Zona 20. Settles for 3.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 5, 2014 9:30pm
and then Zona fumbles away the KO. Goodnight, Wildcats.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2014 9:53pm
Arizona bending, but not breaking.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2014 10:21pm
Not the way I expected these teams to be playing. Pretty bad football thus far.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 5, 2014 10:24pm
this game is sloppy as shit
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 5, 2014 10:29pm
If Arizona had any offense in the first half they'd be up in this game.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2014 10:30pm
RR should probably get away from the running two plays up the gut, then having to throw on 3rd & 10.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 5, 2014 10:37pm
btw Mariota makes some nice throws, but think he is a little overhyped
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2014 10:44pm
Personally I've never understood the hype, especially the expected high draft slot.Pick6;1682830 wrote:btw Mariota makes some nice throws, but think he is a little overhyped