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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:09am
                            
                        
                                I see where the NFL is saying the game could be played on Fri, sat, sun or monday...but there will be a game!
Highly doubt they move it, but if they moved it to Monday it would suck..and if it was moved to maybe sat or fri it would suck for those going as many would have to change their plans.
                        Highly doubt they move it, but if they moved it to Monday it would suck..and if it was moved to maybe sat or fri it would suck for those going as many would have to change their plans.
 
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:10am
                            
                        And that's you.WebFire;1571085 wrote:I never think of "thug" as black only. Many blacks are thugs. Many whites are thugs. Asians, Mexicans...they can be thugs too. But since everything has to be about race, let's redefine the word thug to fit the racist agenda.
You gotta be pretty naive not to think Sherman makes a valid point in that article.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:15am
                            
                        He does make a valid point.Automatik;1571090 wrote:And that's you.
You gotta be pretty naive not to think Sherman makes a valid point in that article.
The more I see and listen to him speak the less of an issue that interview becomes. So what...he yelled and boasted comments during an interview. PRobably wasnt the best thing to do but he didnt go on some cursing rampage.
I didnt know much about the guy before other than he was a good player. Now I know he is a very smart, articulate person
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:16am
                            
                        He does make a valid point. The point that he is not a thug. His past history does not in anyway indicate he is a thug. But that has nothing to do with thug being the same as the n word.Automatik;1571090 wrote:And that's you.
You gotta be pretty naive not to think Sherman makes a valid point in that article.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:17am
                            
                        I agree with this. I never thought the interview was a big deal to begin with. Even if you didn't the way he went about it, it still wasn't that bad.thavoice;1571093 wrote:He does make a valid point.
The more I see and listen to him speak the less of an issue that interview becomes. So what...he yelled and boasted comments during an interview. PRobably wasnt the best thing to do but he didnt go on some cursing rampage.
I didnt know much about the guy before other than he was a good player. Now I know he is a very smart, articulate person
 
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:20am
                            
                        It's not the same, but it's definitely been used to suggest the term. Have you seriously not noticed or witnessed this before? Especially on social media.WebFire;1571094 wrote:He does make a valid point. The point that he is not a thug. His past history does not in anyway indicate he is a thug. But that has nothing to do with thug being the same as the n word.
 
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:21am
                            
                        
                                One would have to live under a rock to not realize that people use the word "thug" interchangibly with the N-word anymore. Hell it happens every day on this forum.
                            
                         
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:21am
                            
                        I'm with you. The outrage over it was ridiculous.WebFire;1571096 wrote:I agree with this. I never thought the interview was a big deal to begin with. Even if you didn't the way he went about it, it still wasn't that bad.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:26am
                            
                        I dont interchange thug with those people who nag.LJ;1571101 wrote:One would have to live under a rock to not realize that people use the word "thug" interchangibly with the N-word anymore. Hell it happens every day on this forum.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 10:49am
                            
                        Can black people call each other thugs if they change the spelling of it?LJ;1571101 wrote:One would have to live under a rock to not realize that people use the word "thug" interchangibly with the N-word anymore. Hell it happens every day on this forum.
 
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                                Jan 23, 2014 11:12am
                            
                        It's one of the foundations of Tiernan's existence.LJ;1571101 wrote:One would have to live under a rock to not realize that people use the word "thug" interchangibly with the N-word anymore. Hell it happens every day on this forum.
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                                Jan 23, 2014 11:12am
                            
                        You could have just said that you disagree with the statistics. It would have made your point equally, but more clearly, invalidated.se-alum;1570938 wrote:Broncos run game is predicated on the effectiveness of Peyton Manning throwing the ball. If that threat is greatly diminished, they're not a team that will line up and execute a power running game. Seahawks run to set up the occasional pass.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 11:43am
                            
                        You know what they say...there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.lhslep134;1570923 wrote:You're placing the teams THAT far apart in running? That's where you're wrong.
Check the numbers.
Regular season rushing DVOA
Broncos 10th
Seahawks 7th
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
Numbers can only tell you so much. We all know that the broncos rely on passing on offense, and Seattle on running, and if something were to happen that would hamper a teams ability to throw the ball it would benefit a team like Seattle.
Denver's pass defense is rated pretty low, and much of that can be attributed to their opponants being behind for much of the games and having to pass.
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                                Jan 23, 2014 11:50am
                            
                        No, we know they're excellent at throwing and prolific, but that doesn't mean they rely on it. They can still be in a close ball game against an excellent team even if Manning is hampered by the weather, which they proved earlier this season.thavoice;1571156 wrote:We all know that the broncos rely on passing on offense.
My point is that I vehemently disagree with those who think that the weather is some decisive mechanism and that there's some sort of extreme disparity between the two offensive schemes (looking at you SE)
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                                Jan 23, 2014 11:54am
                            
                        thavoice;1571156 wrote:You know what they say...there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Numbers can only tell you so much.
And they tell us a lot more today than they did 5 years ago.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:01pm
                            
                        When you avg 340 passing, and 117 rushing then yeah I would say you rely on passing. Not saying they cannot run the ball. Not saying that if someone else was their QB that they couldnt win games based on the run. Not saying they havent ran the ball effectivel when the weather is bad, but when you are 2.9:1 pass/run ration then yeah, you rely on the pass.lhslep134;1571163 wrote:No, we know they're excellent at throwing and prolific, but that doesn't mean they rely on it. They can still be in a close ball game against an excellent team even if Manning is hampered by the weather, which they proved earlier this season.
My point is that I vehemently disagree with those who think that the weather is some decisive mechanism and that there's some sort of extreme disparity between the two offensive schemes (looking at you SE)
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:02pm
                            
                        Brandon Jacobs just put Harbaugh on blast.He said at the time that he wasn’t talking about 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh and insisted during a Thursday interview on WFAN that he was always respectful toward Harbaugh while he was in San Francisco, but retirement seems to have loosened his tongue.
“He is a bitch, and that’s why he’s never won anything,” Jacobs said. “It is what it is. I’ve got two rings. Harbaugh, though, he’s a bitch. So it doesn’t matter.”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/23/brandon-jacobs-has-no-warm-feelings-for-jim-harbaugh/
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:07pm
                            
                        Sounds like Jacobs is the one being the bitch.IggyPride00;1571178 wrote:Brandon Jacobs just put Harbaugh on blast.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/23/brandon-jacobs-has-no-warm-feelings-for-jim-harbaugh/
Harbaugh was successful at pretty much every stop he was at. I first saw him coach when I was out in San Diego and caught the SD vs Dayton game. The guy can coach. If his young QB didnt have a meltdown with three TOs late he would e back in the super bowl
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:32pm
                            
                        
                                Can a dead horse be beaten anymore than discussing Richard Sherman?  At one point it was the top 3 headlines at CNNSI.  Is the American sports media that hard-up for news?  Enough....it was enough a week ago.
                            
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:55pm
                            
                        Yes, you essentially are. By harping on the effects of the weather, you're discounting the Bronco's ability to run the ball.thavoice;1571176 wrote: Not saying they havent ran the ball effectivel when the weather is bad,
At the very least, you're circularly arguing both sides with the quoted text.
It is what it is man, we disagree. It happens. I've made and defended my argument, I don't see the point in going back in forth.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 12:59pm
                            
                        Ok. If you say so.lhslep134;1571210 wrote:Yes, you essentially are. By harping on the effects of the weather, you're discounting the Bronco's ability to run the ball.
At the very least, you're circularly arguing both sides with the quoted text.
It is what it is man, we disagree. It happens. I've made and defended my argument, I don't see the point in going back in forth.
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                                Jan 23, 2014 1:07pm
                            
                        You can keep making your argument, I'll gladly listen, this has been a nice debate. But I don't have anything to add to my point without it being an ass-hole comment that adds nothing.thavoice;1571212 wrote:Ok. If you say so.
                                        
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                                Jan 23, 2014 1:15pm
                            
                        and we know that is strictly forbidden on this message board!!lhslep134;1571213 wrote:You can keep making your argument, I'll gladly listen, this has been a nice debate. But I don't have anything to add to my point without it being an ass-hole comment that adds nothing.
Read an article this AM about how the weather is playing a factor in the betting and they are expecting an even bigger last second exchange than ever before.
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                                Jan 23, 2014 1:20pm
                            
                        Well I'm really just trying to cut back on being an ass-hole when talking about sports.thavoice;1571217 wrote:and we know that is strictly forbidden on this message board!!
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                                Jan 23, 2014 2:46pm
                            
                        Not a racist cell in my body but I do have a strong prejudice against idiots and like many Thuggers you fall into that category and ill call you all on it when it's apparent.Heretic;1571138 wrote:It's one of the foundations of Tiernan's existence.