Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 21, 2014 3:14pm
My ideal (while staying realistic) way the group plays out:
RD 1:
USA 1 - Ghana 0
Germany 3 - Portugal 1
RD 2:
USA 1 - Portugal 2
Ghana 0 - Germany 2
RD 3
USA - 1 Germany 1
Portugal 1 - Ghana 1
1. Germany 7 pts
2. USA 4 pts (advance on GD 0 vs. -1)
3. Portugal 4 pts
4. Ghana 1 pts
RD 1:
USA 1 - Ghana 0
Germany 3 - Portugal 1
RD 2:
USA 1 - Portugal 2
Ghana 0 - Germany 2
RD 3
USA - 1 Germany 1
Portugal 1 - Ghana 1
1. Germany 7 pts
2. USA 4 pts (advance on GD 0 vs. -1)
3. Portugal 4 pts
4. Ghana 1 pts
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 21, 2014 3:51pm
Yep, and if we win that one we're pretty much assured to at least have a chance going into match 3. Definite must win.Automatik;1618535 wrote:Ghana is all that concerns me. Like someone already said, we lose that....we're fucked. It really irks me how that team has our number.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 21, 2014 5:07pm
I am not all that sold on Germany having the group locked up by the third game. I see portugal drawing them, and I wouldn't be surprise if they beat them.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 21, 2014 6:55pm
I agree, but I do think Germany having it locked up is the most likely scenario.like_that;1618577 wrote:I am not all that sold on Germany having the group locked up by the third game. I see portugal drawing them, and I wouldn't be surprise if they beat them.
Portugal is is obviously scary with Ronaldo, and they looked real good in the Euros 2 yrs ago, but that lineup doesn't scare me the way Germany does (famous last words). Germany is probably the most loaded team in the tourney along with Spain.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 22, 2014 12:24pm
I think we see a major disappointment out of one of the big teams and my bold prediction is Germany. It seems every international tourney they get handed a cupcake group. Not this time, and it will be interesting to see if they have some adversity to respond to.Laley23;1618623 wrote:I agree, but I do think Germany having it locked up is the most likely scenario.
Portugal is is obviously scary with Ronaldo, and they looked real good in the Euros 2 yrs ago, but that lineup doesn't scare me the way Germany does (famous last words). Germany is probably the most loaded team in the tourney along with Spain.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 22, 2014 1:48pm
Netherlands was the last one. Total fail.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 22, 2014 1:56pm
I see it going like this:
2-0 win vs Ghana
0-2 loss to Portugal
The game against Germany IMO will be huge. I see Germany and Portugal BOTH beating Ghana. I see Germany beating Portgual.
So the standings before we finish with Germany will look like this:
Germany 2-0 -6 PT (somewhere around +4 GD)
Portugal 2-1 - 6 PT (somewhere around +2 GD)
USA 1-1 - 3 PT (somewhere around 0 GD)
Ghana 0-3 - 0 PT
Therefore I will we'll need a win against Germany and itll have to be by 2 goals.
2-0 win vs Ghana
0-2 loss to Portugal
The game against Germany IMO will be huge. I see Germany and Portugal BOTH beating Ghana. I see Germany beating Portgual.
So the standings before we finish with Germany will look like this:
Germany 2-0 -6 PT (somewhere around +4 GD)
Portugal 2-1 - 6 PT (somewhere around +2 GD)
USA 1-1 - 3 PT (somewhere around 0 GD)
Ghana 0-3 - 0 PT
Therefore I will we'll need a win against Germany and itll have to be by 2 goals.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 22, 2014 1:57pm
Their Euro 2012 group was Portugal, Netherlands, and Denmark. They didn't drop a point.like_that;1618896 wrote:I think we see a major disappointment out of one of the big teams and my bold prediction is Germany. It seems every international tourney they get handed a cupcake group. Not this time, and it will be interesting to see if they have some adversity to respond to.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 22, 2014 2:02pm
Their WC 2010 Group wasnt that tough, but this group of players were pretty young and in their first tourney. They dismantled England and Argentina in the knockout rounds.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 22, 2014 2:06pm
Laley23;1618951 wrote:Their WC 2010 Group wasnt that tough, but this group of players were pretty young and in their first tourney. They dismantled England and Argentina in the knockout rounds.
Personally I think this tourney is Brazil's or Argentina's to lose. However, if a European team is going to win, it's going to be Spain, Germany, or Belgium (COME ON BELGIUM).
England, Italy, France, Netherlands, Bosnia, Greece, Portgual, etc can all GFT they aren't winning. Not on my watch.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 22, 2014 3:09pm
If United sign Robben, I'm going to go chop down a tree and write an angry letter to Van Gaal.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 22, 2014 3:13pm
Haha now if we can get Hummels and Robben. I'd be happy.ohiobucks1;1618973 wrote:If United sign Robben, I'm going to go chop down a tree and write an angry letter to Van Gaal.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 22, 2014 3:44pm
Great, then we can see Robben dive around on the regular.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
May 22, 2014 5:34pm
Well I just got a little less excited about the WC. It's going to be weird not seeing Landon Donovan out there in the red white and blue.
http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1830254/landon-donovan-maurice-edu-left-world-cup-squad?cc=5901
http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1830254/landon-donovan-maurice-edu-left-world-cup-squad?cc=5901
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 22, 2014 5:36pm
Here it is, USMNT World Cup roster:
GK -- Tim Howard, Nick Rimando, Brad Guzan
DEF -- DaMarcus Beasley, Matt Besler, Geoff Cameron, DeAndre Yedlin, Omar Gonzalez, Timmy Chandler, John Anthony Brooks, Fabian Johnson
MID -- Graham Zusi, Jermaine Jones, Kyle Beckerman, Michael Bradley, Mix Diskerud, Julian Green, Alejandro Bedoya, Brad Davis
FWD -- Jozy Altidore, Aron Johannson, Chris Wondolowski, Clint Dempsey
NO Landon Donovan!
EDIT: turtles got me by 2 minutes...ah!
GK -- Tim Howard, Nick Rimando, Brad Guzan
DEF -- DaMarcus Beasley, Matt Besler, Geoff Cameron, DeAndre Yedlin, Omar Gonzalez, Timmy Chandler, John Anthony Brooks, Fabian Johnson
MID -- Graham Zusi, Jermaine Jones, Kyle Beckerman, Michael Bradley, Mix Diskerud, Julian Green, Alejandro Bedoya, Brad Davis
FWD -- Jozy Altidore, Aron Johannson, Chris Wondolowski, Clint Dempsey
NO Landon Donovan!
EDIT: turtles got me by 2 minutes...ah!
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
May 22, 2014 5:45pm
Lol... in your defense you did post out the whole roster 
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I got out of a meeting and checked my phone and saw the twitter announcement. I had to go get an asprin and some water cause of it(or it could have been the 2 hour pointless meeting). But I was surprised no one else had posted anything about it yet. Just a shame we won't get to see LD in one last WC.
.I got out of a meeting and checked my phone and saw the twitter announcement. I had to go get an asprin and some water cause of it(or it could have been the 2 hour pointless meeting). But I was surprised no one else had posted anything about it yet. Just a shame we won't get to see LD in one last WC.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 22, 2014 5:55pm
I'm glad we have 23 players better than Donovan, as much as it sucks to see him left off.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 22, 2014 5:57pm
I am shocked as much as the next about Landycakes, but I am not heartbroken. I don't mind moving another direction.
I am interested in hearing what/if Jurgen says about the situation AND what/if Landy says anything about it too.
I am interested in hearing what/if Jurgen says about the situation AND what/if Landy says anything about it too.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 22, 2014 6:36pm
This whole Julian Green obsession is just questionable. The kid doesn't even play.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
May 22, 2014 6:54pm
I don't think we have 23 players better the Landy.
If the US is tied 0-0 with Germany in that final game with 10 minutes to go and advancement on the line who do you want to sub in for instant offense. I would easily choose Landy over Wojo or Green.
Not to mention our defense is fucking terrible. I will be surprised if the US wins a single game in Brazil.
If the US is tied 0-0 with Germany in that final game with 10 minutes to go and advancement on the line who do you want to sub in for instant offense. I would easily choose Landy over Wojo or Green.
Not to mention our defense is fucking terrible. I will be surprised if the US wins a single game in Brazil.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 22, 2014 7:05pm
Exactly. Our defense is going to be exposed by Ronaldo. Wojo I'm okay with as a 4th option because he's more of a poacher. I still can't wrap my head around the Green thing. It was obvious that his fate was decided a long time ago when Klinsmann convinced him to sign with the United States. Sorry this kid maybe a future prospect but he's playing in the German 3rd league.sportchampps;1619015 wrote:I don't think we have 23 players better the Landy.
If the US is tied 0-0 with Germany in that final game with 10 minutes to go and advancement on the line who do you want to sub in for instant offense. I would easily choose Landy over Wojo or Green.
Not to mention our defense is fucking terrible. I will be surprised if the US wins a single game in Brazil.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 22, 2014 7:21pm
Leaving Donovan off is wrong on various levels, most importantly his experience and leadership...what a travesty.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 22, 2014 7:23pm
Who cares. If klinsman thinks it's the right call, I trust he knows what he's doing
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 22, 2014 7:24pm
I care, so fuck offSportsAndLady;1619021 wrote:Who cares. If klinsman thinks it's the right call, I trust he knows what he's doing
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 22, 2014 7:24pm
He never liked Donovan anyway. I think it's wrong to leave him off, but wtf do I know.