GoChiefs
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Mar 12, 2014 9:01am
Isaiah Trufant is now a Brown, and Cleveland appears to be done with Revis talks.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Mar 12, 2014 9:15am
Uhh, what?!?!?!? They don't need a QB this year but they need to get a WR when they have a Pro Bowl WR and TE? How could you possibly have this opinion?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589248 wrote:if Watkins is at 4, they'll take him. If not, they'll go QB and WR at 26. Either way you have to draft a WR and a RB in the first 2 rounds. You don't have to draft QB this year.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 9:39am
uhhh b/c you only have 1 reciever and you need ATLEAST 2 in the NFL and uhhh b/c next years QB class is better than this... if Hoyer blows you get one then.Rotinaj;1589256 wrote:Uhh, what?!?!?!? They don't need a QB this year but they need to get a WR when they have a Pro Bowl WR and TE? How could you possibly have this opinion?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 9:42am
you don't need to draft a WR with the first pick but Watkins is by far the best offensive player in the draft. And we need another WR.. so you take him if he's there. If he's not you take a QB and WR at 26. and a RB in the second round. I didn't say you take a RB in the first round.. i said first 2.. reading is tough.like_that;1589252 wrote:You definitely don't have to draft a WR with the first pick and you sure as hell don't have to draft a RB in the first round. We already have a super WR (not to mention another great option in Cameron). We don't need to go after another potential super WR. We have way too many other needs. Not to mention as I have said before, name the last team that won a SB with a bunch of super star WRs...
I guess you haven't learned your lesson the last 13 years regarding the QB position. As long as the franchise keeps getting cute with that position, it will go nowhere.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:47am
No need to get butthurt and defensive. I know what you said. I wouldn't take a rb before the 2nd period. "First two rounds" consists of the first and second round. Comprehending your own posts is tough...ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589263 wrote:you don't need to draft a WR with the first pick but Watkins is by far the best offensive player in the draft. And we need another WR.. so you take him if he's there. If he's not you take a QB and WR at 26. and a RB in the second round. I didn't say you take a RB in the first round.. i said first 2.. reading is tough.
If Watkins and a QB is at 4 you take the QB or defensive player.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:48am
The Seahawks disagree with you, so does every team that won a SB.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589261 wrote:uhhh b/c you only have 1 reciever and you need ATLEAST 2 in the NFL and uhhh b/c next years QB class is better than this... if Hoyer blows you get one then.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 9:51am
like_that;1589267 wrote:The Seahawks disagree with you, so does every team that won a SB.
every team that's won a superbowl had 1 WR and the rest sucked?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:51am
I would trade down before drafting Watkins at 4.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:52am
All of our reception options suck other than Gordon?ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589268 wrote:every team that's won a superbowl had 1 WR and the rest sucked?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 9:53am
no butthurt, just explaining why you are wrong.like_that;1589266 wrote:No need to get butthurt and defensive. I know what you said. I wouldn't take a rb before the 2nd period. "First two rounds" consists of the first and second round. Comprehending your own posts is tough...
If Watkins and a QB is at 4 you take the QB or defensive player.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 9:54am
like_that;1589271 wrote:All of our reception options suck other than Gordon?
did i say reception options or WR?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:54am
Lol please name me all the teams that won SBs with two super star WRs. You must have jerked off to Matt Millens drafting style.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589272 wrote:no butthurt, just explaining why you are wrong.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 9:55am
like_that;1589269 wrote:I would trade down before drafting Watkins at 4.
Watkins possibly won't even be there at 4. You think you'd get him later? good luck.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:55am
Cameron is pretty much a wr. Our QB has two pro bowl options. We don't need to give him another superstar, we need an actual QB that can throw to those guys. Sanders would be a great fit.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589273 wrote:did i say reception options or WR?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 9:56am
No I'm saying id much rather trade down than draft Watkins at 4.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589275 wrote:Watkins possibly won't even be there at 4. You think you'd get him later? good luck.
Reading is tough.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 9:56am
like_that;1589274 wrote:Lol please name me all the teams that won SBs with two super star WRs. You must have jerked off to Matt Millens drafting style.
I'd hardly call Gordon a super star. He's very good and the best we have, but that's about it right now. Could he be? sure. is he? no.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 9:58am
And get who?like_that;1589277 wrote:No I'm saying id much rather trade down than draft Watkins at 4.
Reading is tough.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Mar 12, 2014 9:59am
Gordon is top 5 WR in the league. He's a superstar.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 10:00am
If he can statically be the best WR in the NFL with weeden/Campbell throwing to him, then he surely can be a super star. Getting another WR isn't going to help him. He was tearing teams up when they were focusing on him since they knew he was the browns only offensive threat (since Campbell decided to stop throwing at Cameron).ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589278 wrote:I'd hardly call Gordon a super star. He's very good and the best we have, but that's about it right now. Could he be? sure. is he? no.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 10:02am
It depends how far they trade down. BPA.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589280 wrote:And get who?
Basically with the 4th pick Id rank these options:
1. QB
2. Best defensive player (either Mack or clowney will be there)
3. Trade down
4. Watkins
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 10:05am
1. Watkins
2. [EMAIL="QB@4"]QB@4[/EMAIL] [EMAIL="WR@26"]WR@26[/EMAIL]
3. trade out of it
2. [EMAIL="QB@4"]QB@4[/EMAIL] [EMAIL="WR@26"]WR@26[/EMAIL]
3. trade out of it
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 10:07am
btw.. seattle didn't have any superstar WR.. guess by your logic we should trade Gordon to win a superbowl huh?
SportsAndLady
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Mar 12, 2014 10:20am
I disagree with everything zwick 4 prez has said in this thread.
Hope this helps.
(I especially felt anger when I read "wait til next year to draft a QB" fuck you)
Hope this helps.
(I especially felt anger when I read "wait til next year to draft a QB" fuck you)
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 12, 2014 10:22am
So since this is a football thread, that pretty much validates everything I said.SportsAndLady;1589291 wrote:I disagree with everything zwick 4 prez has said in this thread.
Hope this helps.
(I especially felt anger when I read "wait til next year to draft a QB" fuck you)
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Mar 12, 2014 10:23am
Who shit in your Cheerios today?From never posting on a browns thread to all out butthurt. As my man Jon Gruden would say. Incredible!ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589287 wrote:btw.. seattle didn't have any superstar WR.. guess by your logic we should trade Gordon to win a superbowl huh?