bases_loaded
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Mar 11, 2014 7:38pm
Only has to hold up for 2
Midstate01
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Mar 11, 2014 7:48pm
The deal is front loaded. After 2 years the Browns can cut him.
like_that
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Mar 11, 2014 7:53pm
The deal is mostly front loaded on year 1 too. So if he really sucks he won't be that much of a casualty.
like_that
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Mar 11, 2014 7:54pm
Some linebackers play their best football at the end of their careers (I.e fletcher), hopefully dansby follows suit.
GoChiefs
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Mar 11, 2014 9:26pm
Byrd went to New Orleans.
Midstate01
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Mar 11, 2014 9:29pm
11 mil up front for Whitner and 14 mil up front for Dansby
Midstate01
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Mar 11, 2014 9:29pm
Or I guess I should say in year 1, counting bonuses
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vball10set
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Mar 11, 2014 9:48pm
lhslep134;1589077 wrote:No, but Jared Abbrederis in the 4th round is.
lolCommander of Awesome;1589078 wrote:Can he play Roby every game?
se-alum
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Mar 11, 2014 11:04pm
I haven't reallly watched Moats play, but his numbers aren't impressive, don't see where signing him over drafting a LB in the 3rd or 4th round is to the Browns advantage.
shook_17
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Mar 11, 2014 11:16pm
Not sure why the Browns are hot and heavy for Hawkins. A lot of money for a little production
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friendfromlowry
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Mar 11, 2014 11:20pm
The Bengals bloggers/insiders I follow on Twitter didn't anticipate the Bengals matching on Hawkins. $4/million for their 4th WR option wasn't practical from their perspective, and probably Mike Brown's as well.
DeyDurkie5
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Mar 11, 2014 11:36pm
It's about future production. They see Hawkins as someone who will develop into someone worth of more than the contract given. Not that hard to see.shook_17;1589175 wrote:Not sure why the Browns are hot and heavy for Hawkins. A lot of money for a little production
Terry_Tate
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Mar 11, 2014 11:37pm
Jared Abbrederis isn't really a slot guy though IMO, he's more like Eric Decker or Jordy Nelson. Think those are the more appropriate white WR comparisons, not Wes Welker or Julian Edelman. He could be a #3 receiver but just see him being better on the outside and not just doing mostly underneath routes.lhslep134;1589077 wrote:No, but Jared Abbrederis in the 4th round is.
Edit: Googled it and sounds like people are projecting him as a slot receiver. Wouldn't doubt whether people think that just because he's white though, lol. He may not have elite speed but I think he has great technique and will be a good NFL WR. Would be wise for the Browns to get him.
Terry_Tate
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Mar 11, 2014 11:48pm
As for Hawkins, it's not hard to do but he's better than any WR they had last year aside from JG obviously. I question if he can stay healthy for all 16 games or is good enough to get 80 catches but he has nice potential so don't think it's a bad move. He was never going to get the opportunity to showcase his talents in Cincinnati given the guys ahead of him so it's hard to tell how good he was/can be.
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 12, 2014 6:41am
Reading the bengals are matching the browns offer.
like_that
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Mar 12, 2014 6:56am
I read they were unlikely to match.Commander of Awesome;1589209 wrote:Reading the bengals are matching the browns offer.
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 12, 2014 7:00am
@AdamSchefter: Bengals plan to match 4-yr, $12.2M offer sheet that includes $5,3M gtd that Cincinnati RFA WR Andrew Hawkins signed with Cleveland.
like_that
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Mar 12, 2014 7:02am
Fucking Schefter. At least the browns succeeded in forcing cincy to pay him. Now who do the browns go after?
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 12, 2014 7:03am
Hopefully sanders
bases_loaded
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Mar 12, 2014 7:43am
Sanders, Decker, or draft Watkins
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 8:10am
You're drafting Watkins reguardless of which reciever you get.bases_loaded;1589222 wrote:Sanders, Decker, or draft Watkins
like_that
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Mar 12, 2014 8:13am
If we don't get a QB I much rather draft a defensive player before entertaining the idea of a WR.
Commander of Awesome
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Mar 12, 2014 8:21am
Brent Sobleski ‏@brentsobleski 2m Was told Arthur Moats to Browns could get done today, and team still interested in Emmanuel Sanders. So, we'll see
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 12, 2014 8:36am
if Watkins is at 4, they'll take him. If not, they'll go QB and WR at 26. Either way you have to draft a WR and a RB in the first 2 rounds. You don't have to draft QB this year.like_that;1589239 wrote:If we don't get a QB I much rather draft a defensive player before entertaining the idea of a WR.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 12, 2014 8:46am
You definitely don't have to draft a WR with the first pick and you sure as hell don't have to draft a RB in the first round. We already have a super WR (not to mention another great option in Cameron). We don't need to go after another potential super WR. We have way too many other needs. Not to mention as I have said before, name the last team that won a SB with a bunch of super star WRs...ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589248 wrote:if Watkins is at 4, they'll take him. If not, they'll go QB and WR at 26. Either way you have to draft a WR and a RB in the first 2 rounds. You don't have to draft QB this year.
I guess you haven't learned your lesson the last 13 years regarding the QB position. As long as the franchise keeps getting cute with that position, it will go nowhere.