se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 13, 2014 11:38pm
I'm mostly on side of having to draft a QB, but I can also see a situation that they go BPA if the QB they want isn't there, then maybe take a shot at Garopollo(sp?) with the 2nd pick or the 2nd rounder. It's hard not to trust that Farmer will make the right moves.HighRoller74;1580524 wrote:I agree we need to try and get a QB at 4, but I don't want the team to just take a QB, for the sake of taking one.
Once the front office is able to separate their guy, I'd prefer them to go through and rank every player separate and take best available player, don't want to be pigeonholed into a QB who might be the 16th/17th rated prospect just because.
For example:
Browns feel Bortles is top QB available, if he's there when we pick, done deal, if not go to best available if its another QB awesome if not, the Browns are talented, but aren't exactly 1 player away from the super bowl, so should take best available player (To an Extent)
Bortles
Then:
Robinson
Clowney
Watkins
Teddy
Barr
etc.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 14, 2014 5:30am
Thanks!Mulva;1580502 wrote:Super Bowl or bust.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 14, 2014 8:25am
He will quickly lose my trust if he passes on a QB.se-alum;1580561 wrote:I'm mostly on side of having to draft a QB, but I can also see a situation that they go BPA if the QB they want isn't there, then maybe take a shot at Garopollo(sp?) with the 2nd pick or the 2nd rounder. It's hard not to trust that Farmer will make the right moves.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 14, 2014 8:29am
This.like_that;1580603 wrote:He will quickly lose my trust if he passes on a QB.
There's no way (okay I guess there's a small chance..) Bortles, Bridgewater, and Manziel go 1, 2, and 3. Grab whoever is there at 4. Period.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Feb 14, 2014 10:55am
Honestly what I don't get, Teddy from last year all through this season was the sure fire #1 Qb now the combine and shit has him dropping, hopefully to us. But I hate this time of year. I don't give a shit about measurables, show me the game film. The film shows Teddy as the best qb. I just don't get how a qb like Bortles jumps up because of his measureables. But I guess thats why I'm not a scout. If Teddy falls to us, please pull the trigger.
I was on the Manziel bandwagon but Im shifting to Teddy at 4.
I was on the Manziel bandwagon but Im shifting to Teddy at 4.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 14, 2014 11:23am
TBW will still go #1. This is draft BS, and pathetic BSPN writers trying to get clicks.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 14, 2014 11:38am
Lots of people wanted Bortles all year. He isn't having some crazy post season jump. Manziel on the other hand has shot up draft boards after most people didn't see him as a 1st rounder after last year.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 14, 2014 12:09pm
Good article on Manziel
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/From-Johnny-Football-to-Johnny-Manziel-The-5235518.php?t=c80d489e2acba496f0#/0
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/From-Johnny-Football-to-Johnny-Manziel-The-5235518.php?t=c80d489e2acba496f0#/0
Like the Texans and Jaguars, Cleveland also needs a quarterback, and the Browns have the fourth overall pick."If something happens, and it's the Cleveland Browns, I'm going to pour my heart out for the Dawg Pound and try to win a Super Bowl for Cleveland," he says. "I don't care if they've had 20 starting quarterbacks since 1999. I'm going to be the 21st and the guy that brought them the Super Bowl."
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 14, 2014 12:11pm
Nice comments by Manziel, but Gabbert said same thing about Jacksonville. Talk is cheap but glad he's not being a bitch boy eli manning about SD with Cleveland.
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lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Feb 14, 2014 12:23pm
True, but Manziel is a significantly better prospect, and has worked with Whitfield for 3 years. He'll be much better in the NFL than Gabbert, even though that doesn't really take much.Commander of Awesome;1580728 wrote:Nice comments by Manziel, but Gabbert said same thing about Jacksonville. Talk is cheap
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 14, 2014 12:24pm
Yeah, showing one iota of competence and ability = being better in the NFL than Gabbert.lhslep134;1580729 wrote:True, but Manziel is a significantly better prospect, and has worked with Whitfield for 3 years. He'll be much better in the NFL than Gabbert, even though that doesn't really take much.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 14, 2014 12:30pm
Do not want a QB at 4 just because QB. None of the current crop screams at me "Franchise QB" and certainly not Manziel.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 14, 2014 12:32pm
Comparing Gabbert talking to JFF? Come on now, that's just dumb.Commander of Awesome;1580728 wrote:Nice comments by Manziel, but Gabbert said same thing about Jacksonville. Talk is cheap but glad he's not being a bitch boy eli manning about SD with Cleveland
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 14, 2014 12:40pm
I'm not comparing their talents or QB skills dummy. I'm talking about pre draft talking. Means jack shit.DeyDurkie5;1580734 wrote:Comparing Gabbert talking to JFF? Come on now, that's just dumb.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 14, 2014 12:43pm
I don't know, I feel like Gabbert just spewed that BS, just to make himself look good. I mean he really didn't have a great college resume. Manziel has had this attitude that he can win anywhere since probably when he was a JR High QB. I like his arrogance. Sometimes you need that to succeed.Commander of Awesome;1580738 wrote:I'm not comparing their talents or QB skills dummy. I'm talking about pre draft talking. Means jack shit.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 14, 2014 12:55pm
COA never gets what I'm saying. Nor does he ever read what I say.like_that;1580740 wrote:I don't know, I feel like Gabbert just spewed that BS, just to make himself look good. I mean he really didn't have a great college resume. Manziel has had this attitude that he can win anywhere since probably when he was a JR High QB. I like his arrogance. Sometimes you need that to succeed.
I said comparing Gabbert's TALKING to JFF's.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 14, 2014 2:15pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Feb 14, 2014 3:08pm
As much as I've been against him at #4... this just made me partially accepting of him. I've always felt that he is a polarizing player and that teammates didn't really care for him, but he definitely said the right things in this article.lhslep134;1580727 wrote:Good article on Manziel
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/From-Johnny-Football-to-Johnny-Manziel-The-5235518.php?t=c80d489e2acba496f0#/0
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 14, 2014 3:57pm
if you are a Browns fan and hate JFF, only good things can come from drafting him.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 14, 2014 4:09pm
That's beyond dumb logic.derek bomar;1580819 wrote:if you are a Browns fan and hate JFF, only good things can come from drafting him.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 14, 2014 4:31pm
Just...no.derek bomar;1580819 wrote:if you are a Browns fan and hate JFF, only good things can come from drafting him.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 14, 2014 4:41pm
How is continuing to hate him and continuing to lose a good thing? Lmao
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Feb 14, 2014 5:39pm
Derek bomar...that was a dumb post.
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Sonofanump
Feb 14, 2014 8:36pm
Yeah! Wait, wut? Did footwedge hack your account?derek bomar;1580819 wrote:if you are a Browns fan and hate JFF, only good things can come from drafting him.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Feb 15, 2014 10:21am
w.t.f.?!?derek bomar;1580819 wrote:if you are a Browns fan and hate JFF, only good things can come from drafting him.
Scenario A: Browns draft him and he's awesome. If that happens, Browns will win more games, and that's good.
Scenario B: Browns draft him and he's garbage. You hate him already. Your hate grows exponentially for him, and he flops and you get some schadenfreude out of it. Browns win/loss stays the same. So no harm there.
You can only get positives out of drafting JFF.
