2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

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thavoice
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Jan 31, 2014 10:22am
bases_loaded;1574657 wrote:I don't understand the desire for head coaches that were head coaches sitting at home or just got fired. Give me a guy like Pettine who is out to prove something over a guy who has failed somewhere else and will bring the same failed logics here.
Because you never know when you find the next Billicheck.

But I agree with you for the most part. The only slight difference of an opinion I would have is that many times it is the right place at the right time, and a talented guy may get fired at a place but learns the ropes and maybe the second go around tweaks a few things.

Plus it seems like owners prefer a guy with HC experience, even if he stunk, over a guy with none.

Could be worse...could be like the Cowboys caoching right now. Man is that an absolute clusterfuck.
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Jan 31, 2014 10:57am
*Belichick :rolleyes:
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Jan 31, 2014 3:18pm
Josh Gordon is getting smarter.

Marc Sessler ‏@MarcSesslerNFL 16m
I asked Josh Gordon if Brian Hoyer should be the starter: 'Man, that's above my head, but Brian's a great guy, great quarterback.' #Browns
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thavoice
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Jan 31, 2014 3:21pm
I really have nothing to add of value, hard to believe huh, but just wanted to get a few more vdollars to bet on the sure thing that Lynch wont get 100 yards in teh SB...
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Jan 31, 2014 3:22pm
thavoice;1574883 wrote:I really have nothing to add of value, hard to believe huh, but just wanted to get a few more vdollars to bet on the sure thing that Lynch wont get 100 yards in teh SB...
Sounds about right with 95% of your posts on this thread.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:30pm
@DustinFox37: Boom RT @alexmarvez: Source tells @foxsports that Kyle Shanahan is #browns new offensive coordinator
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SportsAndLady
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Feb 1, 2014 12:46pm
Love that move.

Wait to hear iggy's negative post
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Rotinaj
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Feb 1, 2014 12:53pm
We going after Cousins now?
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Feb 1, 2014 12:58pm
wildcats20;1575080 wrote:@DustinFox37: Boom RT @alexmarvez: Source tells @foxsports that Kyle Shanahan is #browns new offensive coordinator
i like.
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Feb 1, 2014 1:35pm
Rotinaj;1575089 wrote:We going after Cousins now?
I hope not.

But I'm also a fan of getting Shanahan.
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Feb 1, 2014 4:37pm
Solid hire. Did good things with RG3 last season, this season you chalk up to RG3 not being "right" all season.
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gport_tennis
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Feb 1, 2014 5:48pm
It was more than just rg3 coming off an ACL injury. As a Redskins fan I watch for their games than anybody here, either Mike Shanahan or Kyle Shanahan made the conscious effort to abandon the run almost all year long. And it killed the Redskins offense. Hopefully be four your guys shake it was Mike's decision not Kyles
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Feb 1, 2014 5:57pm
gport_tennis;1575180 wrote:It was more than just rg3 coming off an ACL injury. As a Redskins fan I watch for their games than anybody here, either Mike Shanahan or Kyle Shanahan made the conscious effort to abandon the run almost all year long. And it killed the Redskins offense. Hopefully be four your guys shake it was Mike's decision not Kyles
Not to bust balls, but they had the 5th ranked Rushing offense last season.

Rushing Yards Leaders

RK TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG TD YDS/G FUM FUML
1 Philadelphia 500 2566 5.1 65 19 160.4 5 2
2 Buffalo 546 2307 4.2 77 15 144.2 12 3
3 San Francisco 505 2201 4.4 51 18 137.6 7 5
4 Seattle 509 2188 4.3 43 14 136.8 6 2
5 Washington 453 2164 4.8 45 14 135.3 11 5
And 9th overall

[h=4]Net Total Yards Leaders[/h]
RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 Denver 7317 457.3 5444 340.3 1873 117.1 606 37.9
2 Philadelphia 6676 417.3 4110 256.9 2566 160.4 442 27.6
3 Green Bay 6404 400.3 4268 266.8 2136 133.5 417 26.1
4 New Orleans 6391 399.4 4918 307.4 1473 92.1 414 25.9
5 San Diego 6293 393.3 4328 270.5 1965 122.8 396 24.8
6 Detroit 6274 392.1 4482 280.1 1792 112.0 395 24.7
7 New England 6152 384.5 4087 255.4 2065 129.1 444 27.8
8 Chicago 6109 381.8 4281 267.6 1828 114.3 445 27.8
9 Washington 5915 369.7 3751 234.4 2164 135.3 334 20.9
10 Cincinnati 5894 368.4 4139 258.7 1755 109.7 430 26.9
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gport_tennis
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Feb 1, 2014 6:07pm
If you look at the stats on a first half / second half basis you would see more of what I'm talking about. 2 games off the top of my head are the Broncos game in the Cowboys game where we had like 80 90 yards rushing in the first half on 20 carries and then the second half we ran the ball 3 or 4 times and completely ignored Alfred Morris. We were winning both of those games up until the point where we abandon the run and then we immediately got trounced
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Feb 1, 2014 7:38pm
HighRoller74;1575183 wrote:Not to bust balls, but they had the 5th ranked Rushing offense last season.

Rushing Yards Leaders

RK TEAM ATT YDS YDS/A LONG TD YDS/G FUM FUML
1 Philadelphia 500 2566 5.1 65 19 160.4 5 2
2 Buffalo 546 2307 4.2 77 15 144.2 12 3
3 San Francisco 505 2201 4.4 51 18 137.6 7 5
4 Seattle 509 2188 4.3 43 14 136.8 6 2
5 Washington 453 2164 4.8 45 14 135.3 11 5
And 9th overall

[h=4]Net Total Yards Leaders[/h]
RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 Denver 7317 457.3 5444 340.3 1873 117.1 606 37.9
2 Philadelphia 6676 417.3 4110 256.9 2566 160.4 442 27.6
3 Green Bay 6404 400.3 4268 266.8 2136 133.5 417 26.1
4 New Orleans 6391 399.4 4918 307.4 1473 92.1 414 25.9
5 San Diego 6293 393.3 4328 270.5 1965 122.8 396 24.8
6 Detroit 6274 392.1 4482 280.1 1792 112.0 395 24.7
7 New England 6152 384.5 4087 255.4 2065 129.1 444 27.8
8 Chicago 6109 381.8 4281 267.6 1828 114.3 445 27.8
9 Washington 5915 369.7 3751 234.4 2164 135.3 334 20.9
10 Cincinnati 5894 368.4 4139 258.7 1755 109.7 430 26.9
tl;dr
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Feb 2, 2014 11:14am
I like the hire. Shannahan managed to make Cousins to look good in all of his starts.
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Feb 2, 2014 10:28pm
I'm okay with the Pettine hire but my drunk impulsive side has to laugh that they didn't take Dan Quinn more serious after tonight
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Feb 2, 2014 10:38pm
mucalum49;1575626 wrote:I'm okay with the Pettine hire but my drunk impulsive side has to laugh that they didn't take Dan Quinn more serious after tonight
Carroll's hands are all over that defense though. The Browns will keep Quinn in mind for next year though.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:24am
It's the right thing for him to say, whether it was true or not.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:37am
se-alum;1575734 wrote:It's the right thing for him to say, whether it was true or not.
No, the right thing would have been to say "I would have highly considered the job." Not pretty much say he would have taken the job, meanwhile knowing he would be employed on the Seahawks for another year...

Just stop.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:49am
like_that;1575750 wrote:No, the right thing would have been to say "I would have highly considered the job." Not pretty much say he would have taken the job, meanwhile knowing he would be employed on the Seahawks for another year...

Just stop.
Did you read the article? This is his quote:
"I certainly would've been interested,'' Quinn told cleveland.com. "I mean, it's a big-time place. It's the Cleveland Browns.''
The headline was misleading, he didn't say he would likely have taken the job.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:52am
se-alum;1575761 wrote:Did you read the article? This is his quote:



The headline was misleading, he didn't say he would likely have taken the job.
You are right SE, everyone hates Cleveland. Keep eating up what the media says. BTW, your boy Gase had a great game plan yesterday.
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thavoice
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Feb 3, 2014 11:56am
se-alum;1575761 wrote:Did you read the article? This is his quote:



The headline was misleading, he didn't say he would likely have taken the job.
Yeah, no doubt.

I believe asst coaches need to strike while the iron is hot, and his is hot right now. You never know what a year can bring. He could possibly do a better job coaching next year but it not translate to the success on the field.
Years ago Chud lead the browns to a great offensive season. His stock was high. He stayed, then shit fell apart and it took him years to get another shot at being a HC.


as for Gase and yesterday....I think the SB had more to do with the front 4 of Seattle beating the OL of Denver. PM rarely has guys in his face and can sit back and look and look.

Not yesterday.

the DL for SEattle won this game.
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Feb 3, 2014 11:56am
like_that;1575764 wrote:You are right SE, everyone hates Cleveland. Keep eating up what the media says. BTW, your boy Gase had a great game plan yesterday.
What are you even talking about? I simply said he did the right thing saying he would've been interested, keeping his options open for the future. Also, I never liked Gase, in fact I was very much against Gase, but don't let the facts get in the way of your trolling.