Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 6, 2014 11:08am
McShay had no QB's taken until 3rdlike_that;1577125 wrote:Kiper has the Browns taking bridgewater on his updated mock, mccshay has the browns taking bortles.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 6, 2014 11:16am
He must believe the Browns will trade or pick up a QB, or does he believe the browns are hinging their future on Hoyer?Ironman92;1577131 wrote:McShay had no QB's taken until 3rd
If the browns are putting their future in Hoyer it doesnt seem like that would be the best play on their part.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 6, 2014 11:26am
I really do not understand why you have an opinion on every browns related topic.thavoice;1577132 wrote:He must believe the Browns will trade or pick up a QB, or does he believe the browns are hinging their future on Hoyer?
If the browns are putting their future in Hoyer it doesnt seem like that would be the best play on their part.
I just couldn't imagine going to a steelers forum and having a comment on every thing steelers related.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 6, 2014 11:28am
Because he actually thinks by posting on this thread he is jinxing the Browns. Also the fact that the steelers thread has no activity probably plays into his post count here. I honestly never read his posts. Always about 100 words too long, because of all the unnecessary fluff.SportsAndLady;1577137 wrote:I really do not understand why you have an opinion on every browns related topic.
I just couldn't imagine going to a steelers forum and having a comment on every thing steelers related.
Mccshay nor Kiper said anything about a trade up fwiw.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 6, 2014 11:32am
Why not? Football is football and although I am a steelers fan I follow the browns/bengals closely as well and know about their teams.SportsAndLady;1577137 wrote:I really do not understand why you have an opinion on every browns related topic.
I just couldn't imagine going to a steelers forum and having a comment on every thing steelers related.
Just ignore my posts like that dickhead like_that if it bothers you so much.
Do you think what I said was incorrect? That the browns need a QB?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 6, 2014 11:42am
Just curious that's all. Just very strange every time something comes up on this thread, you're commenting on it.thavoice;1577145 wrote:Why not? Football is football and although I am a steelers fan I follow the browns/bengals closely as well and know about their teams.
Just ignore my posts like that dickhead like_that if it bothers you so much.
Do you think what I said was incorrect? That the browns need a QB?
I can see every now and then but it's seriously every time.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 6, 2014 11:56am
Here are the top 5 of each....I think I agree slightly more with Kiper
But I've thought all along that Jacksonville takes Bortles
But I've thought all along that Jacksonville takes Bortles
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 6, 2014 11:57am
Eh, its not every time.SportsAndLady;1577153 wrote:Just curious that's all. Just very strange every time something comes up on this thread, you're commenting on it.
I can see every now and then but it's seriously every time.
Maybe just when something new pops up. Have lots of browns/bengals fan friends/family members and probably get to talk more about those two teams than the steelers.
I agree there are times I act like a dick and all, but for the most part I just like to talk about football, and being in ohio, on an ohio board, browns talk comes up alot.
KInda wierd there usually isnt as much bengals talk though. Guess there is just more talk when you are trying to fix a team than just trying to get over the hump like the bengals.
Believe it or not there is usually more knowledgable fans and legit talk on message boards like this as opposed to an all steelers, or all bengals, or all browns site. Those specific sites bring out all the whacko's and just too many retards.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 6, 2014 12:21pm
I like kipers much better. Hope it happens.Ironman92;1577165 wrote:Here are the top 5 of each....I think I agree slightly more with Kiper
But I've thought all along that Jacksonville takes Bortles
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 6, 2014 12:52pm
Just get one of the 3 top ranked QBs. If they pick a tackle or a linebacker or any other position besides QB, they are doing it wrong.
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Feb 6, 2014 1:01pm
Go all the way back to 1999 with Tim Couch. The browns have NEVER picked a good QB in the 1st round.SportsAndLady;1577227 wrote:Just get one of the 3 top ranked QBs. If they pick a tackle or a linebacker or any other position besides QB, they are doing it wrong.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Feb 6, 2014 1:03pm
Kiper is without a doubt the biggest fraud out there in his field. He predicted Jake Locker being the overall number one pick that year....and now he says Johnny football does not belong in the top 25 picks this season. How he remains relevant is beyond the call.like_that;1577125 wrote:Kiper has the Browns taking bridgewater on his updated mock, mccshay has the browns taking bortles.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 6, 2014 1:08pm
Edit: read your post incorrectly, however I believe locker would've gone first if he didn't wait one year. I could be thinking of somebody else though.Footwedge;1577233 wrote:Kiper is without a doubt the biggest fraud out there in his field. He predicted Jake Locker being the overall number one pick that year....and now he says Johnny football does not belong in the top 25 picks this season. How he remains relevant is beyond the call.
If easily take bridgewater over manziel and I like manziel.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 6, 2014 1:12pm
Okay..?Devils Advocate;1577232 wrote:Go all the way back to 1999 with Tim Couch. The browns have NEVER picked a good QB in the 1st round.
What does that have to do with this draft?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 6, 2014 1:14pm
Mostly because I doubt there are many other people out there to take his spot! Plus.....after the pick no one really pays much attention to it and how right/wrong he is and since it usually takes 2-4 years to really know how overall the pick does it is all forgottn! Good they have McShay to counteract Kiper. ALmost like Kiper has tenure so they just dont even attempt to do anything no matter how wrong he is.Footwedge;1577233 wrote:Kiper is without a doubt the biggest fraud out there in his field. He predicted Jake Locker being the overall number one pick that year....and now he says Johnny football does not belong in the top 25 picks this season. How he remains relevant is beyond the call.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 6, 2014 2:35pm
As much as I disagree with the way this FO handled the coaching situation, they've showed that they're solid when it comes to personnel, and I think they'll do a very good job in the draft.
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Sonofanump
Feb 6, 2014 9:23pm
RE: Kiper & McShay.
The Browns would benefit greatly if a OT goes second. I can't see a talent like Clowney not going in the top three.
I think Bortes is the best QB talent. But if they get Bridgewater that would not be bad at four, I hope Manziel is gone before they draft.
The Browns would benefit greatly if a OT goes second. I can't see a talent like Clowney not going in the top three.
I think Bortes is the best QB talent. But if they get Bridgewater that would not be bad at four, I hope Manziel is gone before they draft.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Feb 7, 2014 1:13pm
Now being reported that Manziel is going to be the number one overall pick. Makes sense. Houston desperately needs a quarterback and why not take a home grown kid that smashed SEC records for 2 straight years and was the first to notch a Heisman as a freshman. FML as a Breowns fan.
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Sonofanump
Feb 7, 2014 1:16pm
That is great news for the Browns.Footwedge;1577603 wrote:Now being reported that Manziel is going to be the number one overall pick.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Feb 7, 2014 1:24pm
Hardly.Sonofanump;1577606 wrote:That is great news for the Browns.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 7, 2014 1:30pm
It's not news. It's speculation.Sonofanump;1577606 wrote:That is great news for the Browns.
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Sonofanump
Feb 7, 2014 1:35pm
My bad, it's news to FW, speculation to the rest of us.SportsAndLady;1577609 wrote:It's not news. It's speculation.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 11, 2014 1:48am
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Feb 11, 2014 1:55am
Yea that'd be an awesome first 3 rounds.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 11, 2014 8:26am
Holy offense