Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 3, 2014 5:22pm
Bama's D was awful last season. Fucking atrocious.se-alum;1561409 wrote:But but but.....he dominated mediocre to bad SEC defenses!
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 3, 2014 5:33pm
Very weak argument considering you are lobbying for Bortles.se-alum;1561409 wrote:But but but.....he dominated mediocre to bad SEC defenses!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 3, 2014 5:49pm
That was in response to everyone saying he is obviously good because he had good games against the SEC west. There is much more to being ready for the NFL than putting up huge college numbers. Andrew Luck never put up huge numbers, but was considered a can't miss draft pick. How often does a spread QB come into the NFL and be effective? Newton is the closest, and he led one of the worst offenses in the league. I want Bortles because he has the physical ability, but more importantly, he comes from a pro-style offense where he had the responsibility of changing plays at his discretion.Pick6;1561419 wrote:Very weak argument considering you are lobbying for Bortles.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 3, 2014 5:51pm
fair enough.se-alum;1561430 wrote:That was in response to everyone saying he is obviously good because he had good games against the SEC west. There is much more to being ready for the NFL than putting up huge college numbers. Andrew Luck never put up huge numbers, but was considered a can't miss draft pick. How often does a spread QB come into the NFL and be effective? Newton is the closest, and he led one of the worst offenses in the league. I want Bortles because he has the physical ability, but more importantly, he comes from a pro-style offense where he had the responsibility of changing plays at his discretion.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 3, 2014 7:04pm
I like Manziel, but I def worry about him running around too much. Same reason I was never on the rg3 train
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 3, 2014 7:22pm
Settle down there champ. There are a lot of us here who also want Bortles. Can't put all your eggs in one basket though.se-alum;1561430 wrote:That was in response to everyone saying he is obviously good because he had good games against the SEC west. There is much more to being ready for the NFL than putting up huge college numbers. Andrew Luck never put up huge numbers, but was considered a can't miss draft pick. How often does a spread QB come into the NFL and be effective? Newton is the closest, and he led one of the worst offenses in the league. I want Bortles because he has the physical ability, but more importantly, he comes from a pro-style offense where he had the responsibility of changing plays at his discretion.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Jan 3, 2014 11:05pm
I want Watkins at 4.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2014 11:06pm
^Stop
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2014 11:07pm
Texans up for trading the 1st pick...Browns could get the best QB in the draft if they want it..
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Jan 3, 2014 11:12pm
Who's the best QB in the draft? Neither Bridgewater or Bortles are guarentees to me. There's a lot of opportunity cost in trading up for one of those guys.SportsAndLady;1561852 wrote:Texans up for trading the 1st pick...Browns could get the best QB in the draft if they want it..
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Jan 3, 2014 11:16pm
Watkins, Justin Gilbert, Carlos Hyde, and Aaron Murray make us better than Bridgewater and whoever we would take in the third after we give up two firsts and a second to come up 3 spots.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 3, 2014 11:18pm
Aaron Murray lol
Good one, CLE.
Good one, CLE.
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Jan 3, 2014 11:20pm
FIFY S&LCLEconomically Speaking;1561877 wrote:Watkins, Justin Gilbert, and Carlos Hyde make us better than Bridgewater and whoever we would take in the third after we give up two firsts and a second to come up 3 spots.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 3, 2014 11:21pm
Telegraph
SportsAndLady
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Jan 3, 2014 11:38pm
Telepath..ic?Ironman92;1561887 wrote:Telegraph
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 3, 2014 11:45pm
I think Murray may be decent at the next level, but if you take him in the first 3 rounds it's a big mistake. He's a backup QB pick at best...until he shows more. Also, coming off a torn ACL. He may not go until the 5th or 6th.
bases_loaded
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Jan 4, 2014 1:11am
Watkins Watkins Watkins
believer
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Jan 4, 2014 8:16am
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vball10set
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Jan 4, 2014 8:52am
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?43423-Browns-New-Coach&p=1560985&viewfull=1#post1560985believer;1562168 wrote:[video=youtube;Miqa-oFkIBk][/video]
Try and keep up :rolleyes:
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2014 8:57am
I don't think you realize just how bad OSU's defense, and secondary, is.bases_loaded;1562139 wrote:Watkins Watkins Watkins
Watkins is good, but unless he's there with our Colts' first rounder, forget about him.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 4, 2014 10:49am
Watkins is a stud either way. But an interesting name that will possibly be there at the colts pick is Marquis Lee. I'd take Lee in a heart beatSportsAndLady;1562174 wrote:I don't think you realize just how bad OSU's defense, and secondary, is.
Watkins is good, but unless he's there with our Colts' first rounder, forget about him.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 4, 2014 11:34am
This year of his 1,400 yards almost 1,000 was after the catch. Dude is a stud and if none of the QBs wow leading up to the draft I now want him at 4 and a QB with the colts pick or laterSportsAndLady;1562174 wrote:I don't think you realize just how bad OSU's defense, and secondary, is.
Watkins is good, but unless he's there with our Colts' first rounder, forget about him.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2014 11:49am
That's exactly what I'm worried about with a WR like Watkins. Yards after the catch aren't guarantees in the nfl. It's easy to run all over ACC secondaries (and OSUs). It's not easy to run on nfl secondaries.bases_loaded;1562197 wrote:This year of his 1,400 yards almost 1,000 was after the catch. Dude is a stud and if none of the QBs wow leading up to the draft I now want him at 4 and a QB with the colts pick or later
I'm a big fan of Watkins, I just don't think he should be a top 5 pick.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 4, 2014 11:49am
Id love to take a WR with our colts pick. Lee next to Gordon would be nice.Crimson streak;1562189 wrote:Watkins is a stud either way. But an interesting name that will possibly be there at the colts pick is Marquis Lee. I'd take Lee in a heart beat
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 4, 2014 1:30pm
I think Watkins can be a good one, but will probably take several years to develop into an NFL WR.