wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 2, 2014 3:45pm
You're assuming the browns want bridgewater. Vic carrucci claims that he is fourth on their list.Ironman92;1560915 wrote:But Jacksonville would jump in that bidding and drive up Bortles price for that pick.....might not be much cheaper than going for Bridgewater at #1
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 3:47pm
Seems like all these ESPN "experts" are not sold on any of the QBs coming out lol.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 2, 2014 3:52pm
Yeah, I've read that they all grade out lower than geno Smith. Honestly though....jamarcus Russell was a can't miss by those dumbasses based on torching an awful Notre dame team and throwing the ball 50 yards from his knees...Lollike_that;1560918 wrote:Seems like all these ESPN "experts" are not sold on any of the QBs coming out lol.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 3:57pm
Oh....I have no idea but was just saying I really think Jacksonville wants Bortles and will drive the bidding high.wes_mantooth;1560916 wrote:You're assuming the browns want bridgewater. Vic carrucci claims that he is fourth on their list.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 2, 2014 3:59pm
Yeah...I'm sure there will be a lot of bluffing and posturing.Ironman92;1560923 wrote:Oh....I have no idea but was just saying I really think Jacksonville wants Bortles and will drive the bidding high.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 4:06pm
Exactly, and sorry but id take any of those guys over Geno Smith.wes_mantooth;1560920 wrote:Yeah, I've read that they all grade out lower than geno Smith. Honestly though....jamarcus Russell was a can't miss by those dumbasses based on torching an awful Notre dame team and throwing the ball 50 yards from his knees...Lol
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Sonofanump
Jan 2, 2014 4:27pm
Would they rather have:Ironman92;1560923 wrote:Oh....I have no idea but was just saying I really think Jacksonville wants Bortles and will drive the bidding high.
#3 & #35
or #4 and #22ish
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 5:27pm
If the #3 is "your" guy and kind of a local product.....and #4 is not really what you want for your team......if they think the #3 will help your franchise a good bit more than the #4....yes.Sonofanump;1560931 wrote:Would they rather have:
#3 & #35
or #4 and #22ish
If your not sure the 4 and 22 would be better IMO
I think it's dumb that Jacksonville would've had the tie breaker over Cleveland for the playoffs but not for the draft.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:03pm
Let me know when it is draft time so I don't have to hear everyone talk about "potential draft candidates." Literally every draft for the past 30 years have gone completely different than what the "experts" have suggested. Get a QB with the first pick and go from there, regardless of who it is.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 6:04pm
Who do you want?DeyDurkie5;1560964 wrote:Let me know when it is draft time so I don't have to hear everyone talk about "potential draft candidates." Literally every draft for the past 30 years have gone completely different than what the "experts" have suggested. Get a QB with the first pick and go from there, regardless of who it is.
Also, change your fucking avatar. That bet is over.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:08pm
I personally want Johnny football. We have literally drafted some of the worst QB's alive and I want to break that trend. JF could suck but at least we will have taken a risk on someone who isn't a ginger sloth who can't read a defense.like_that;1560965 wrote:Who do you want?
Also, change your fucking avatar. That bet is over.
Also, changing it now.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:12pm
Trying to make it this, but it won't let me.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jan 2, 2014 6:15pm
Blake Bortles would be my pick if he is there and his lady wouldn't be so bad to have around either.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 6:19pm
I'd def take Manziel. it would be even better to see IQQY's head explode, only to see Manziel succeed. Would love to see how IQQY reacts to that.DeyDurkie5;1560968 wrote:I personally want Johnny football. We have literally drafted some of the worst QB's alive and I want to break that trend. JF could suck but at least we will have taken a risk on someone who isn't a ginger sloth who can't read a defense.
Also, changing it now.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 6:20pm
Nice set of Bortles she has!Tigerfan00;1560971 wrote:Blake Bortles would be my pick if he is there and his lady wouldn't be so bad to have around either.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 2, 2014 6:25pm
I'm warming up to manziel a lot. I was def down on him this yr, but Wilson's success is making me rethink it. That doesn't mean draft shrimp qbs, ALa McCoy, but he was swagger and can make all the throws.like_that;1560883 wrote:I like Manziel. Wouldn't QQ one bit. He would be the first QB the browns drafted that I didn't QQ about. He can be a bit wreckless, but I think that is coachable. Last year, everyone (in general, not just the posters here) was talking about how they wished Manziel could declare for the draft, and now all of a sudden people are down on him. The ESPN hype machine did it's typical hype job only to bring the person down. It never fails. Sprinkle in Manziel being a 20 year old college student during the off season and all of a sudden he wasn't worth a first round pick lol.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 2, 2014 6:25pm
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 2, 2014 6:27pm
Bspn always pulls this shit. Just wait until gruden starts fapping and the sports sciences have them throwing at clay discs. Then they'll be falling over all 5 calling them the best crop ever, better than 83.like_that;1560918 wrote:Seems like all these ESPN "experts" are not sold on any of the QBs coming out lol.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 6:29pm
Yup, pretty much what the ESPN hype machine does. I posted earlier today, about how everyone was fapping to manziel and clowney last year, and then all of a sudden this year they did what they could to bring them back down.Commander of Awesome;1560980 wrote:Bspn always pulls this shit. Just wait until gruden starts fapping and the sports sciences have them throwing at clay discs. Then they'll be falling over all 5 calling them the best crop ever, better than 83.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 6:30pm
The "clay discs" made me lolCommander of Awesome;1560980 wrote:Bspn always pulls this shit. Just wait until gruden starts fapping and the sports sciences have them throwing at clay discs. Then they'll be falling over all 5 calling them the best crop ever, better than 83.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 2, 2014 6:32pm
Am I the only one that would be interested in actually seeing them try to hit the clay discs?
I feel it would be a solid test of your accuracy.
I feel it would be a solid test of your accuracy.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:52pm
How can you be down on Manziel? All he has done is win and dominate the position. What can you dislike about him??Commander of Awesome;1560978 wrote:I'm warming up to manziel a lot. I was def down on him this yr, but Wilson's success is making me rethink it. That doesn't mean draft shrimp qbs, ALa McCoy, but he was swagger and can make all the throws.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 6:57pm
The trending reasons why people don't like Manziel (and i am not speaking for COA) is:DeyDurkie5;1560988 wrote:How can you be down on Manziel? All he has done is win and dominate the position. What can you dislike about him??
-Not big enough.
-He will run around too much, and won't get away with that in the NFL (because this obviously isnt coachable /sarcasm)
-He is a dick
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 2, 2014 7:02pm
The first two Like_that listed, are my reasons, but I love that he's a dick.
I love his leadership and how competitive he is, but also not a huge fan of His Arm, looks like he has to load up a little too much for a lot of the throws I've seen, though I'll admit i haven't seen a whole lot of his games.
Also it seems like most of his big plays have came from a busted play. I've hardly seen him stand in the pocket and dominate, usually its throw on the run, or after scrambling a bit.
I love his leadership and how competitive he is, but also not a huge fan of His Arm, looks like he has to load up a little too much for a lot of the throws I've seen, though I'll admit i haven't seen a whole lot of his games.
Also it seems like most of his big plays have came from a busted play. I've hardly seen him stand in the pocket and dominate, usually its throw on the run, or after scrambling a bit.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 2, 2014 7:04pm
Fuck. No.DeyDurkie5;1560968 wrote:I personally want Johnny football. We have literally drafted some of the worst QB's alive and I want to break that trend. JF could suck but at least we will have taken a risk on someone who isn't a ginger sloth who can't read a defense.
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