Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 13, 2014 10:21am
I don't like the elf but that's pretty good.Midstate01;1615620 wrote:anyone else see this?? Brilliant.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 13, 2014 10:27am
I doubt the coaches and ownership will give in to the fans so he will have to earn it.
He will wow everyone with his ad lib scrambles in the pre season and get everyone excited. Coaches will have to look and see how he actually executes the offense. It is great to be able to make shit happen like a Roethlisberger, Rogers, etc, but in the end you really need to be able to make the plays within the framework of the offense. He could make a good play, the fans be amped up, but when the coaches watch film see that he totally blew the play and had guys open that he shoulda thrown to.
He will wow everyone with his ad lib scrambles in the pre season and get everyone excited. Coaches will have to look and see how he actually executes the offense. It is great to be able to make shit happen like a Roethlisberger, Rogers, etc, but in the end you really need to be able to make the plays within the framework of the offense. He could make a good play, the fans be amped up, but when the coaches watch film see that he totally blew the play and had guys open that he shoulda thrown to.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
May 13, 2014 10:45am
Haha, Manzelf!Midstate01;1615620 wrote:anyone else see this?? Brilliant.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 13, 2014 12:04pm
Haden locked up through 2019
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 13, 2014 12:10pm
How will Iqqy turn this into a negative?Laley23;1615761 wrote:Haden locked up through 2019
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
May 13, 2014 12:13pm
Psyched we got Haden locked up, came on here to post that. But also, I found someone selling a shirt with the Manzelf on it. Look up BrownieManziel on Twitter/Etsy. They're selling them for $20.Midstate01;1615620 wrote:anyone else see this?? Brilliant.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 13, 2014 12:21pm
So, ok.
Locked up Hade for a long time. Great job for the browns.
What will go wrong or be reported that happened in the next few days to knock them back down again? Seems like something good happens, then something bad happens.....
Locked up Hade for a long time. Great job for the browns.
What will go wrong or be reported that happened in the next few days to knock them back down again? Seems like something good happens, then something bad happens.....
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 13, 2014 12:31pm
queencitybuckeye;1615764 wrote:How will Iqqy turn this into a negative?
lol
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
May 13, 2014 12:37pm
Haden's not a wide receiver. Therefore, they're focusing on the wrong things and will never win anything ever.queencitybuckeye;1615764 wrote:How will Iqqy turn this into a negative?
And then he'll mention that one time he was burned in that one game some year as proof.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 13, 2014 12:37pm
Hope joe spends his entire career in Cleveland.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
May 13, 2014 12:46pm
yupPick6;1615800 wrote:Hope joe spends his entire career in Cleveland.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 13, 2014 1:21pm
Now he can get a brown lambo to match his orange one.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2014 3:06pm
I don't really think Haden was worth that kind of money.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
May 13, 2014 3:09pm
I don't think anyone should make millions for paying a game. Unfortunately, that's the going rate. You want a quality product, you've got to pay the price.sleeper;1615888 wrote:I don't really think Haden was worth that kind of money.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 13, 2014 3:11pm
Hard to quantify the worth of a CB as the good ones dont get tested very often. Its alot of $$, no doubt but they have $$ to blow and the ownership is, finally, wanting to show they are actually trying. He got more than Sherman.sleeper;1615888 wrote:I don't really think Haden was worth that kind of money.
Browns fans should be happy about this deal and it was about the going rate to a point.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 13, 2014 3:13pm
To a point I agree.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1615891 wrote:I don't think anyone should make millions for paying a game. Unfortunately, that's the going rate. You want a quality product, you've got to pay the price.
But should someone get paid millions to sing? Dance? Act in a movie?
It is all relative and supported by the market.
Either the players would be making the huge dollars, or the owners would be making all of that extra. I would rather the players get it.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
May 13, 2014 3:20pm
That is the point I was getting at. Anyways, it IS the going rate for top tier CB's, so I won't argue with that.thavoice;1615894 wrote:To a point I agree.
But should someone get paid millions to sing? Dance? Act in a movie?
It is all relative and supported by the market.
Either the players would be making the huge dollars, or the owners would be making all of that extra. I would rather the players get it.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
May 13, 2014 3:35pm
Browns drop 3 spots post-draft in NFL power rankings.....to # 30. :RpS_mellow:....mainly on loss of Gordon.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349990/article/nfl-power-rankings-after-draft-packers-rise-panthers-slip?campaign=Facebook_writers_harrison
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000349990/article/nfl-power-rankings-after-draft-packers-rise-panthers-slip?campaign=Facebook_writers_harrison
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 13, 2014 3:50pm
Espn dropped them from 28 to 32. No way in hell are they worse than every team. No way
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
May 13, 2014 3:57pm
https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/466299478753173504
"Andre Johnson is unhappy in Houston.. There's your guy.. Go make a move Ray Farmer. #Browns"
Edit: Houston Chronicle blog post sparking this.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/frustrated-andre-johnson-wonders-is-this-still-the-place-for-me/#23243101=0
"Andre Johnson is unhappy in Houston.. There's your guy.. Go make a move Ray Farmer. #Browns"
Edit: Houston Chronicle blog post sparking this.
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2014/05/frustrated-andre-johnson-wonders-is-this-still-the-place-for-me/#23243101=0
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 13, 2014 4:08pm
So everyone has seen the supposed leaked Patriots scouting report on Johnny Manziel by now. Apparently, he's spoiled, walks away from coaches, gets allowance from Gramps (still), believes in partiality when it comes to knowing the playbook and has some jealous teammates. Wonder if it said "still 200 times better than Brandon Weeden" on there.
Interesting. I find the playbook think interesting, and believable to a point. He makes so many plays with his feet that I wouldnt doubt he didnt have a full grasp of the playbook of maybe what every receiver is doing on each play. Maybe he knew what 1 and 2 were doing and then would just say fuck it and scramble it around.
That dog wont hunt in the NFL where you have to know what all 4/5 receivers are doing and anticipate those throws.
Interesting. I find the playbook think interesting, and believable to a point. He makes so many plays with his feet that I wouldnt doubt he didnt have a full grasp of the playbook of maybe what every receiver is doing on each play. Maybe he knew what 1 and 2 were doing and then would just say fuck it and scramble it around.
That dog wont hunt in the NFL where you have to know what all 4/5 receivers are doing and anticipate those throws.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 13, 2014 4:14pm
He's unhappy because he wants to win and is running out of years. If he moves, it makes more sense to go to a current contender.mucalum49;1615920 wrote:
"Andre Johnson is unhappy in Houston..
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
May 13, 2014 4:23pm
I believe in his intro presser he said Sumlin didn't have a "playbook" but game sheets for that week specifically. Semantics I know but maybe where the full grasp of a playbook comment would come from.thavoice;1615921 wrote:So everyone has seen the supposed leaked Patriots scouting report on Johnny Manziel by now. Apparently, he's spoiled, walks away from coaches, gets allowance from Gramps (still), believes in partiality when it comes to knowing the playbook and has some jealous teammates. Wonder if it said "still 200 times better than Brandon Weeden" on there.
Interesting. I find the playbook think interesting, and believable to a point. He makes so many plays with his feet that I wouldnt doubt he didnt have a full grasp of the playbook of maybe what every receiver is doing on each play. Maybe he knew what 1 and 2 were doing and then would just say fuck it and scramble it around.
That dog wont hunt in the NFL where you have to know what all 4/5 receivers are doing and anticipate those throws.
And yeah queencitybuckeye. My thoughts too about Andre Johnson. People are thinking he'd consider us cause he had his best seasons under Kyle Shanahan plus an improving D and the allue of JFF. My guess is Mallett and a 3rd or 4th from the Patriots for Andre Johnson.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 13, 2014 4:27pm
There is also some horse shit rumor on twitter that Aj green wants to request a trade.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
May 13, 2014 4:32pm
ESPN's Dan Graziano reports the NFL is expected to revamp its marijuana policy in the league's new drug agreement, instituting a higher threshold for positive tests and lessening the penalties.