lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 24, 2014 12:17pm
Also, the Kitties made some moves because Iglesias is out 4-6 months. They tradeded Lombardozzi for Alex Gonzalez.
That Fister trade is looking reallllllly good right now :RpS_lol:
That Fister trade is looking reallllllly good right now :RpS_lol:
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 24, 2014 12:36pm
Fox Sports Ken Morosi is reporting it was a 6/$144 million deal that Scherzer turned down.
Considering that he turns 30 this season, and has a short history producing at the super ace level like last year he must be extremely confident he is going to replicate that effort and bust through $200 million in free agency.
That deal would have put him in the top 6 pitchers in the game salary wise.
I am sure Boras will pull another rabbit out of his hat like normal, but if Scherzer returns to earth next year and is stuck taking a deal for roughly half that you have to wonder if it will make some of these guys wake up about his tactics.
Considering that he turns 30 this season, and has a short history producing at the super ace level like last year he must be extremely confident he is going to replicate that effort and bust through $200 million in free agency.
That deal would have put him in the top 6 pitchers in the game salary wise.
I am sure Boras will pull another rabbit out of his hat like normal, but if Scherzer returns to earth next year and is stuck taking a deal for roughly half that you have to wonder if it will make some of these guys wake up about his tactics.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 24, 2014 2:29pm
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 25, 2014 10:11am
Sometimes you wonder what would the players accept if they didnt have an agent to push for more and more.IggyPride00;1596010 wrote:Fox Sports Ken Morosi is reporting it was a 6/$144 million deal that Scherzer turned down.
Considering that he turns 30 this season, and has a short history producing at the super ace level like last year he must be extremely confident he is going to replicate that effort and bust through $200 million in free agency.
That deal would have put him in the top 6 pitchers in the game salary wise.
I am sure Boras will pull another rabbit out of his hat like normal, but if Scherzer returns to earth next year and is stuck taking a deal for roughly half that you have to wonder if it will make some of these guys wake up about his tactics.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 25, 2014 10:30am
I read yesterday that Boras actually takes 5% of the contract value instead of the standard 3% which is what the norm is apparently for most other agents.thavoice;1596244 wrote:Sometimes you wonder what would the players accept if they didnt have an agent to push for more and more.
He is lucky he has the history he does, because it must be an awkward pitch to potential clients telling them that by signing on with me you will have to leave high dollar extensions on the table and pay me 66% more commission than the industry standard.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 25, 2014 10:48am
LOL @ you thinking it's "luck"IggyPride00;1596253 wrote: He is lucky he has the history he does
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 25, 2014 10:51am
Yep, pure "luck" that he's quite simply the best in the game.lhslep134;1596261 wrote:LOL @ you thinking it's "luck"
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 25, 2014 10:52am
Turning down 24M+. Going to regret that, big time...
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 25, 2014 10:53am
Well he also probably touts how much more $$$$ he gets his guys.IggyPride00;1596253 wrote:I read yesterday that Boras actually takes 5% of the contract value instead of the standard 3% which is what the norm is apparently for most other agents.
He is lucky he has the history he does, because it must be an awkward pitch to potential clients telling them that by signing on with me you will have to leave high dollar extensions on the table and pay me 66% more commission than the industry standard.
Sounds like an asshole, and I know it is the owners fault for giving in (Just takes one) but he def gives people bad reps because of the deals he works. Hell there used to be teams who would not draft certain guys because he was the agent. That is fucked up
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Mar 25, 2014 10:57am
+1. I don't get it.Azubuike24;1596264 wrote:Turning down 24M+. Going to regret that, big time...
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 25, 2014 6:25pm
+2Turning down 24M+. Going to regret that, big time...
That's just crazy shit right there....risking $144 million. He's one rotator cuff tear, one slider thrown too hard elbow injury away from zilch.....SMH.
Plus, the Kittys know they will never be able to sign him if he does have a good year.....so they'll ride him like old horse into the ground.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 26, 2014 10:08am
Pretty sure he got rocked taht day as well when he turned it down. Or should we say...his agent turned it down.HitsRus;1596446 wrote:+2
That's just crazy shit right there....risking $144 million. He's one rotator cuff tear, one slider thrown too hard elbow injury away from zilch.....SMH.
Plus, the Kittys know they will never be able to sign him if he does have a good year.....so they'll ride him like old horse into the ground.
Not that one bad ST start will have any bearing on his contract
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 27, 2014 7:33pm
300 mill over 10 years for Cabrera
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 27, 2014 7:48pm
In which he will make $49k an AT BAT. More than the median household income of Michigan.SportsAndLady;1597104 wrote:300 mill over 10 years for Cabrera
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 27, 2014 9:14pm
More stupidity...he doesn't have a body that will last 10 years. Crazy shit.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 27, 2014 9:20pm
Man are they probably wishing they hadn't traded Fister.
Scherzer is for surely gone now. Might as well trade him and get something while you can.
Scherzer is for surely gone now. Might as well trade him and get something while you can.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 27, 2014 9:24pm
+1. These contracts are just ridiculous. I wonder when the bubble will eventually burst.HitsRus;1597175 wrote:More stupidity...he doesn't have a body that will last 10 years. Crazy shit.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 27, 2014 9:41pm
Saw Buster Olney report that league execs are irate about the deal. Haven't been this mad since the Jayson Werth contract.
Mike Trout seriously had to have popped the world's biggest rod when he heard this news.
If Cabrera is worth $300 million over 10 years heading into his age 26 season, what is Mike Trout going to be worth heading into his age 26 season as a free agent?
The Angels have to be pissed right now as the price on that deal just went up exponentially. It will teach them though I guess to not worry about being cheap next time riding out his rookie year deal and get an extension done sooner than later to try and save yourself money down the line.
Mike Trout seriously had to have popped the world's biggest rod when he heard this news.
If Cabrera is worth $300 million over 10 years heading into his age 26 season, what is Mike Trout going to be worth heading into his age 26 season as a free agent?
The Angels have to be pissed right now as the price on that deal just went up exponentially. It will teach them though I guess to not worry about being cheap next time riding out his rookie year deal and get an extension done sooner than later to try and save yourself money down the line.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 27, 2014 9:41pm
Agree, but also....he doesn't have the body to play the number of games he's played per year over the years....same with PrinceHitsRus;1597175 wrote:More stupidity...he doesn't have a body that will last 10 years. Crazy shit.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 27, 2014 11:36pm
They will be paying him $30 million at age 41. Da Fuq?
I heard the deal is not finalized yet....could be 10 years / $292 million or 12 years at $352 Million.
I heard the deal is not finalized yet....could be 10 years / $292 million or 12 years at $352 Million.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 28, 2014 12:21am
Haha I'm so excited to be paying this when he is 38HitsRus;1597270 wrote:They will be paying him $30 million at age 41. Da Fuq?
I heard the deal is not finalized yet....could be 10 years / $292 million or 12 years at $352 Million.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 28, 2014 8:33am
new report this morning is more 'reasonable'LOL.... says $248 million/10 years.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 28, 2014 9:32am
I dont get it...if they were planning on paying him that much, why not just wait 2 more years when the contract is expiring? What if he has a serious injury the next two years?
Also, he is 30...when will people learn?
Also, he is 30...when will people learn?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 28, 2014 9:47am
When trout gets 20 years and $800 million.like_that;1597188 wrote:+1. These contracts are just ridiculous. I wonder when the bubble will eventually burst.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 28, 2014 12:23pm
So, Cabrera is now more valuable than the entire city of Detroit?SportsAndLady;1597104 wrote:300 mill over 10 years for Cabrera