robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 2:39pm
People keep saying how the east is a joke and most of the east playoffs were pointless. Honestly there were only 2 teams out west who had legitimate chances to win a title which is what matters at the end of the day, OKC and SA. The rest of the teams were fun to watch but had no hope of competing for a title. GS, POR, HOU, MEM, LAC, DAL, none of them had a chance in hell to win a title.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 12, 2014 2:40pm
Wasn't a trade rape. Marc Gasol might be the best center in the league. It was only thought of one at the time because Marc wasn't developed.Automatik;1625437 wrote:All of the great dynasties were full of star players.
What about the LA's trade rape to get Gasol? Different method of acquiring a "star player" but the outcome was the same. Rings.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 2:47pm
Marc was a completely unknown at that time.lhslep134;1625454 wrote:Wasn't a trade rape. Marc Gasol might be the best center in the league. It was only thought of one at the time because Marc wasn't developed.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2014 2:53pm
How is that relevant?robj55;1625458 wrote:Marc was a completely unknown at that time.
The only way you can qualify it as a trade rape is if you judge it on an immediate impact on the respective teams. And who the hell would do that?
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 12, 2014 2:53pm
The west is infinitely more times competitive than the East could ever hope to be. At least one of those teams could of got hot and made a run to the WCF or Finals. Aside from Indiana no team had a snowballs chance in hell to even take the heat to 6 games let alone win a series with them aside from Indiana and they obviously couldnt even do it. The west has way more quality players (I mean take a look at he all NBA teams, it was like 12-3 West to East), more parity, and is just overall better to watch to most people. The Eastern Conference is a joke, when teams under 500 are making the playoffs....you're gonna have a bad time.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 12, 2014 2:54pm
The west isn't head and shoulders the better conference because all eight teams were title contenders. Why does winning a title have to be the only thing that matters? Why can't it be playing competitive and showing hope of making the conference finals and challenging the top teams. I think you'd agree the west had that. As the first round was progressing, San Antonio and OKC were getting all they could handle from the 7/8 seeds. Miami, meanwhile, lost three games in the first three rounds.robj55;1625453 wrote:People keep saying how the east is a joke and most of the east playoffs were pointless. Honestly there were only 2 teams out west who had legitimate chances to win a title which is what matters at the end of the day, OKC and SA. The rest of the teams were fun to watch but had no hope of competing for a title. GS, POR, HOU, MEM, LAC, DAL, none of them had a chance in hell to win a title.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 3:13pm
I guess I just look at it differently than you do, each conference had 2 teams that had legit title hopes. The West plays a more entertaining style of basketball and has more talent in terms of big name stars.friendfromlowry;1625465 wrote:The west isn't head and shoulders the better conference because all eight teams were title contenders. Why does winning a title have to be the only thing that matters? Why can't it be playing competitive and showing hope of making the conference finals and challenging the top teams. I think you'd agree the west had that. As the first round was progressing, San Antonio and OKC were getting all they could handle from the 7/8 seeds. Miami, meanwhile, lost three games in the first three rounds.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 3:14pm
He didn't have immediate impact did he? Honest question. The trade was being billed as Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and throw ins.SportsAndLady;1625463 wrote:How is that relevant?
The only way you can qualify it as a trade rape is if you judge it on an immediate impact on the respective teams. And who the hell would do that?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2014 7:28pm
Again, why are you judging a trade on immediate impact?robj55;1625471 wrote:He didn't have immediate impact did he? Honest question. The trade was being billed as Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and throw ins.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 7:32pm
Because it made LA an instant title team and did nothing for Memphis.SportsAndLady;1625625 wrote:Again, why are you judging a trade on immediate impact?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2014 7:35pm
Memphis wasn't trying to be an instant title contenders, how are you not getting this?robj55;1625628 wrote:Because it made LA an instant title team and did nothing for Memphis.
They made the move to build for the future. And it worked. LA was trying to build for immediate success, and it worked. I don't see a trade rape in there.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 7:49pm
That's fair looking back on it now, but at the time we had no idea how great Marc Gasol would be or that it would help Memphis as much as it did, it was thought of as one of the/if not the biggest jokes of a trade in NBA history.SportsAndLady;1625629 wrote:Memphis wasn't trying to be an instant title contenders, how are you not getting this?
They made the move to build for the future. And it worked. LA was trying to build for immediate success, and it worked. I don't see a trade rape in there.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 12, 2014 7:53pm
You are mad at a player for taking the money? You know how I know your a first class ******? You get mad at someone for the money aspect of life.robj55;1625325 wrote:36 years old with basically one or two years left to try and win a title and you take 30 million, makes sense.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 12, 2014 7:55pm
That's because those teams played In the west you moron. You put those teams in thethe east with the heat and the heat aren't making it out of the 2nd round.robj55;1625453 wrote:People keep saying how the east is a joke and most of the east playoffs were pointless. Honestly there were only 2 teams out west who had legitimate chances to win a title which is what matters at the end of the day, OKC and SA. The rest of the teams were fun to watch but had no hope of competing for a title. GS, POR, HOU, MEM, LAC, DAL, none of them had a chance in hell to win a title.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 12, 2014 7:56pm
I just think it was BS because he previously bitched about a shit supporting cast, then hits their cap with 30 mil a year.
But that's on the Bus family too. They are just fucked all around.
But that's on the Bus family too. They are just fucked all around.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 8:09pm
LolDeyDurkie5;1625638 wrote:That's because those teams played In the west you moron. You put those teams in thethe east with the heat and the heat aren't making it out of the 2nd round.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 8:10pm
Yeah he's only made half a billionDeyDurkie5;1625637 wrote:You are mad at a player for taking the money? You know how I know your a first class ******? You get mad at someone for the money aspect of life.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 12, 2014 8:10pm
Dallas took San Antonio to 7 games...In the first round. I rest my case.robj55;1625648 wrote:Lol
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 8:20pm
match ups, if you knew basketball you would know the playoffs are about match ups. Miami would beat any of those teams in 6 games or less.DeyDurkie5;1625650 wrote:Dallas took San Antonio to 7 games...In the first round. I rest my case.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 12, 2014 8:21pm
Ahhh yes its matchups. If I knew basketball I would know it's about matchupsrobj55;1625662 wrote:match ups, if you knew basketball you would know the playoffs are about match ups. Miami would beat any of those teams in 6 games or less.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 12, 2014 8:26pm
You're learning.DeyDurkie5;1625663 wrote:Ahhh yes its matchups. If I knew basketball I would know it's about matchups
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jun 12, 2014 8:51pm
You must remember, Rob knows what he's talking about. He played organized sports.
The Heat would have obviously struggled out west. They might have won it, but not easily.
The Heat would have obviously struggled out west. They might have won it, but not easily.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 12, 2014 8:57pm
Joey's there tonight. Heat win, all but guaranteed.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 12, 2014 9:02pm
Isnt there some crazy stat regarding Joey Crawford and playofd games involving Bron?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 12, 2014 9:09pm
Just flipped over and they were going to commercial break and LeBron was jogging down the hallway??? Got poops?