Archive 2013/14 NBA season chatter - let the LBJ hating begin!

robj55

Posts: 9,511

Oct 18, 2013 5:03pm

Commander of Awesome;1519863 wrote:Yeah they have some decent players, I like Val's potential and he played well in the euros this summer, but inconsistent from what I read. Lowry, might be a worse defender than Kyrie and can't healthy. Love him when he plays, which isn't often. Ross, potential doesn't bring it every game, Gay I like but the advanced stats paint him to be pretty horrible. His shot selection is sketchy and a bigger name than production. Eh a team of a bunch of nice complimentary pieces but no studs. I expect them to be a 35 win team.

You're probably right, they should be a 40 win team but probably won't be. This lineup:

Val
Amir Johnson
Rudy Gay
Derozan
Lowry

with Novak, Ross, Fields, Augustin and Hansbrough off the bench should be pretty good.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Oct 18, 2013 6:01pm

Commander of Awesome;1519782 wrote:I'm not a big believer in the Nets team either. DWill is a bitch who has a bad shot selection. Pretty much every player on that team is overrated and old.

I completely agree but they'll grind 48-52 wins IMO

I'll go

1. Miami
2. Bulls
3. Pacers
4. Nets
5. Knicks
6. Cavs
7. Hawks
8. Celtics

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 18, 2013 6:15pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/230286/Pierce-Nets-Identity-Will-Be-Toughness

Pierce, please:

[video=youtube;ysT8RA6JQks][/video]

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Oct 18, 2013 6:35pm

Commander of Awesome;1519879 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/230286/Pierce-Nets-Identity-Will-Be-Toughness

Pierce, please:

[video=youtube;ysT8RA6JQks][/video]

As ridiculous as the wheel chair was, I thought the agony on his face getting carried off was just unwatchable (Ray Lewis during the Anthem unwatchable)

robj55

Posts: 9,511

Oct 18, 2013 6:51pm

Ironman92;1519877 wrote:I completely agree but they'll grind 48-52 wins IMO

I'll go

1. Miami
2. Bulls
3. Pacers
4. Nets
5. Knicks
6. Cavs
7. Hawks
8. Celtics

DWill is not overrated, a few years ago he was probably the best PG in the game, has dealt with injuries. Brook Lopez overrated? No. Joe Johnson is still solid and isn't out of his prime. The big pick up for them that is going under the radar is Kirilenko, that dude is totally underrated, has a complete game and makes nothing but winning basketball plays.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 18, 2013 7:12pm

I agree with you on Dwill being top PG few yrs ago, now he takes horrible shots, Rebs, FG%, ast, 3 pts, stls, all down and have been on the down trend over the last 3 yrs. He's also a coach killer. Joe Johnson is a solid player, but leaves def to be desired, but def not a scrub. Brook Lopez is a defensive liability, but great on the offensive end. I never like guys who dog it on half the game though. Kirilenko is awesome, I'll give you that. If the Nets make it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs I'll be shocked. Depending on their seeding, I'll probably bet against them in the 1st round.

GOONx19

Posts: 7,147

Oct 18, 2013 7:15pm

DWill is as overrated as they get, and he was never the best PG in the game, or even top 3. When I get to a computer later this weekend I show you statistically why I think that, but he is the reason his teams have never turned the corner with playoff success. All of this in my opinion, obviously.

robj55

Posts: 9,511

Oct 18, 2013 7:22pm

Commander of Awesome;1519889 wrote:I agree with you on Dwill being top PG few yrs ago, now he takes horrible shots, Rebs, FG%, ast, 3 pts, stls, all down and have been on the down trend over the last 3 yrs. He's also a coach killer. Joe Johnson is a solid player, but leaves def to be desired, but def not a scrub. Brook Lopez is a defensive liability, but great on the offensive end. I never like guys who dog it on half the game though. Kirilenko is awesome, I'll give you that. If the Nets make it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs I'll be shocked. Depending on their seeding, I'll probably bet against them in the 1st round.

Last year he got off to a really bad start but was tremendous down the stretch, outplaying probably everyone at his position after the break. I can't argue the coach killer thing because that is his reputation behind closed doors. Lopez is good defensively it's rebounding where he could and should be much better. Having a coach that understands the game and that everyone respects shouldn't hurt either. I think they are the 4th best team in the East but I don't really see them as a threat.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 21, 2013 5:39pm

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 2m Sixers coach Brett Brown says rookie Nerlens Noel's return from knee injury is "slow," indicates Noel likely to miss entire season.

Bummer for NN and 76ers

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Oct 21, 2013 5:45pm

Commander of Awesome;1521432 wrote: Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 2m Sixers coach Brett Brown says rookie Nerlens Noel's return from knee injury is "slow," indicates Noel likely to miss entire season.

Bummer for NN and 76ers

Especially since it seems from everything I've read that they'll suck ass this year, so to lose a young guy fans will actually want to see develop will really suck for them.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Oct 21, 2013 5:53pm

Commander of Awesome;1521432 wrote: Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 2m Sixers coach Brett Brown says rookie Nerlens Noel's return from knee injury is "slow," indicates Noel likely to miss entire season.

Bummer for NN and 76ers

Another Oden. Good thing the Cavs passed and took a future HOF'r.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Oct 21, 2013 5:56pm

Another season where Philly's center will be out for the year.

Trueblue23

Posts: 7,463

Oct 21, 2013 6:08pm

LAKERS GET ANDREW WIGGINS YEEEEAAA lol

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Oct 21, 2013 7:40pm

By the way Phili looks, I wouldnt be surprised if they got him.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Oct 21, 2013 7:41pm

I don't think the east is very good, but its definitely interesting from 6-12.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Oct 21, 2013 9:03pm

Royce White just kicked out of the preseason game for talking shit to the Cavs bench. lol

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 21, 2013 9:04pm

Yikes. What an idiot.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Oct 21, 2013 9:54pm

Pick6;1521535 wrote:Royce White just kicked out of the preseason game for talking shit to the Cavs bench. lol

This guy is the worst.

Great draft.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Oct 22, 2013 3:13pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9861913/2013-nba-player-rankings-4

B

BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Oct 22, 2013 3:19pm

Heretic;1519741 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/lebron-james-toys-idea-slamming-kevin-garnett-paul-180108112--nba.html

Lol, THE NO. 1 RELATOR has spoken.

As you said. Obvious douche is obvious.

He's such a bitch. Quite a bit different with Pierce & KG leaving Boston when they are old/washed up/at the end of their careers versus leaving Cleveland while he was still in his prime. Same can be said for Ray Allen. Dude has little left in his tank.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Oct 22, 2013 3:44pm

BR1986FB;1522017 wrote:He's such a bitch. Quite a bit different with Pierce & KG leaving Boston when they are old/washed up/at the end of their careers versus leaving Cleveland while he was still in his prime. Same can be said for Ray Allen. Dude has little left in his tank.

Not to mention again KG/Pierce were traded, and he was a FA.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Oct 22, 2013 4:35pm

lhslep134;1522011 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9861913/2013-nba-player-rankings-4

Wow, kind of crazy that this NBARANK will have Howard, Lin, and Parsons at #1,#2, and #3. No Lebron either?

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 22, 2013 5:02pm

sleeper;1522044 wrote:Wow, kind of crazy that this NBARANK will have Howard, Lin, and Parsons at #1,#2, and #3. No Lebron either?

BSPN, they want someone new to talk about. Bandwagoners are already sick of riding the Heats' d, so they need a wagon to hitch too. Catering to the lowest common denominator.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Oct 23, 2013 12:48am

GMs give their votes on about every possible category in the NBA

http://www.nba.com/news/2013-14-nba-gm-survey/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3a

Rotinaj

Posts: 7,699

Oct 23, 2013 9:20am

I literally lol'd when I read this. Basically a "Best White Dude" category.

Which player makes the most of limited natural ability?

1. Kevin Love, Minnesota -- 24.1%
2. Marc Gasol, Memphis -- 13.8%
3. Matt Bonner, San Antonio; Jared Dudley, L.A. Clippers -- 10.3%
5. J.J. Barea, Minnesota -- 6.9%