Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 25, 2014 4:09pm
He was the only one in a situation that wasn't terrible. The other 3 teams were at the very, very bottom of the league when those others guys came aboard. All 3 took decent steps forward in 2014, whereas the Pacers pretty much stayed put.Laley23;1630037 wrote:Paul George has shown to be better than very good. Just hasn't been able to do it consistently for more than like a month.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 4:14pm
It's possible if LBJ leaves that.......Joakim Noah has an argument for beast of the east
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 25, 2014 4:17pm
I'm not getting what you're saying?Azubuike24;1630038 wrote:He was the only one in a situation that wasn't terrible. The other 3 teams were at the very, very bottom of the league when those others guys came aboard. All 3 took decent steps forward in 2014, whereas the Pacers pretty much stayed put.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 25, 2014 4:36pm
Lol'd. Him and his career 10 and 9lhslep134;1630040 wrote:It's possible if LBJ leaves that.......Joakim Noah has an argument for beast of the east
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 25, 2014 5:18pm
What does a career number have to do with who would currently be the best?Pick6;1630053 wrote:Lol'd. Him and his career 10 and 9
Hes the current 1st team all nba Center,Hes by far the best passing big man in the league, rebounds at a great rate, and is one of the best post defenders if not the best in the league.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 25, 2014 5:22pm
It's pick6 what do you expect?KB0938;1630065 wrote:What does a career number have to do with who would currently be the best?
Hes the current 1st team all nba Center,Hes by far the best passing big man in the league, rebounds at a great rate, and is one of the best post defenders if not the best in the league.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 5:56pm
Pick6;1630053 wrote:Lol'd. Him and his career 10 and 9
Good, because I just laughed at how ignorant you are. I'd say dumb, but we already know that. In this case it's sheer ignorance, because I didn't say he would be, I said you could make an argument, which is precisely what KB, an educated fan, did.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 5:57pm
Between Pick6 and Rob, jesus christ I've read some dumb ass NBA shit recently.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 25, 2014 6:16pm
Here's something for your beyond annoying infatuation for advanced stats. According to them, Marcus Smart should be the #1 overall pick and some no name from Switzerland should be #2. LOL. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11102133/nba-draft-marcus-smart-tops-kevin-pelton-prospect-projection-rankings
I guess lhs and all these other little nerds who take advanced stats as gospel are smarter than the GMs around the league.
Also, being an all-nba center doesn't mean shit in the current state of the NBA. The position is probably currently the weakest it's ever been.
I guess lhs and all these other little nerds who take advanced stats as gospel are smarter than the GMs around the league.
Also, being an all-nba center doesn't mean shit in the current state of the NBA. The position is probably currently the weakest it's ever been.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 25, 2014 6:27pm
Advanced stats don't work when players are playing different competition, and in the euro case, different freaking leagues lol.Pick6;1630089 wrote:Here's something for your beyond annoying infatuation for advanced stats. According to them, Marcus Smart should be the #1 overall pick and some no name from Switzerland should be #2. LOL. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11102133/nba-draft-marcus-smart-tops-kevin-pelton-prospect-projection-rankings
I guess lhs and all these other little nerds who take advanced stats as gospel are smarter than the GMs around the league.
Also, being an all-nba center doesn't mean shit in the current state of the NBA. The position is probably currently the weakest it's ever been.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 25, 2014 6:27pm
Not to mention, when drafting you are projecting how someone will develop. That has to do with a lot more than what they did in their 1 year of college.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 6:36pm
Pick is too simple minded for me to argue with him about advanced stats. Nobody intelligent thinks advanced metrics are the be all end all, they're a tool to be considered, one more useful than basic stats.
Only idiots think they're the end all be all and your post, by thinking I am and then railing against it, shows your sheer ignorance. As if your previous post wasn't ignorant enough haha
Only idiots think they're the end all be all and your post, by thinking I am and then railing against it, shows your sheer ignorance. As if your previous post wasn't ignorant enough haha
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 6:40pm
How about he single handedly carried a depleted Bulls team to a top 5 seed. But those aren't advanced metrics so I can't use that
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 25, 2014 6:47pm
What's Noah's career batting average?lhslep134;1630099 wrote:How about he single handedly carried a depleted Bulls team to a top 5 seed. But those aren't advanced metrics so I can't use that
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 25, 2014 7:12pm
Kind of off-topic but on-topic because it includes Noah, but has anyone seen the Documentary on Lenny Cooke? Noah produced it. Watched it the other night and I liked it a lot. Followed Cooke a lot when he was a big time recruit/NBA prospect showing his on court battles with Melo and LeBron at All-star camps. Then it continued on to his pro days all over the world and then to the few years before the movie was released (so about '11-'13). I believe now he is going around the country telling his story to HS players.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 25, 2014 7:17pm
Glad I could help.lhslep134;1630078 wrote:Between Pick6 and Rob, jesus christ I've read some dumb ass NBA shit recently.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 25, 2014 7:19pm
Single handedly huh?lhslep134;1630099 wrote:How about he single handedly carried a depleted Bulls team to a top 5 seed. But those aren't advanced metrics so I can't use that
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 25, 2014 7:26pm
Yep....like Bugs Bunny in baseballrobj55;1630113 wrote:Single handedly huh?
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 25, 2014 8:27pm
Pick6 for the lulz.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2014 8:30pm
Some of the Dwayne Wade shit was out there dude. And by out there I mean you can't have that opinion unless you are the most optimistic person ever when it comes to him.robj55;1630110 wrote:Glad I could help.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 25, 2014 8:36pm
Hey guis, Brandan Wright has the 8th highest win share in the league and the highest among centers. He has an argument to be an all-pro center!!!.2! Look some guy said so *http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2013/10/14/4832842/dallas-mavericks-understanding-brandan-wright*
/lhs'd
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robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 25, 2014 8:49pm
Yeah I understand other people's logic when it comes to ranking him, just think it's an overreaction and some of the people named were a total stretch. I understand he isn't able to play every night but when he is on the floor no question he is easily up there.lhslep134;1630139 wrote:Some of the Dwayne Wade shit was out there dude. And by out there I mean you can't have that opinion unless you are the most optimistic person ever when it comes to him.
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 25, 2014 9:46pm
just give upPick6;1630142 wrote:Hey guis, Brandan Wright has the 8th highest win share in the league and the highest among centers. He has an argument to be an all-pro center!!!.2! Look some guy said so *http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2013/10/14/4832842/dallas-mavericks-understanding-brandan-wright*
/lhs'd
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 25, 2014 9:46pm
who are you?KB0938;1630164 wrote:just give up
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KB0938
Posts: 900
Jun 25, 2014 9:54pm
A poster on a message board, who are you