pmoney25;1528681 wrote:Handed Titles? I think most people would admit Bama has been the best program the last 5 years.

Subjective and unfair have been apart of the college game since its inception.

Correct and that includes subjectivity and bias in favor of teams in the B1G.

Just more reason to finally go to a playoff system even if it too will be replete with subjectivity. Money talks.....

Azubuike24;1528590 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Baylor

Bowl Predictions:

Alabama vs Oregon - BCS Championship
Clemson (AL #3) vs Texas A&M (AL #1) - Sugar Bowl
Ohio State (B1G) vs Stanford (AL #2) - Rose Bowl
Baylor (Big XII) vs Fresno State (AL #4) - Fiesta Bowl
Florida State (ACC) vs Central Florida (AAC) - Orange Bowl

I still don't get why Conference USA gets AQ status.

Also, Jeff Sagrin's CPU had NIll above OSU.

Sonofanump;1528805 wrote:I still don't get why Conference USA gets AQ status.

Also, Jeff Sagrin's CPU had NIll above OSU.

Conference USA doesnt get an auto bid.

If four teams go undefeated, they should just say "fuck it" and allow a 4 team playoff. I'm willing to bet neither of those 4 teams will reject that idea.

like_that;1528873 wrote:If four teams go undefeated, they should just say "fuck it" and allow a 4 team playoff. I'm willing to bet neither of those 4 teams will reject that idea.

I've thought this same exact thing.

Sonofanump;1528805 wrote:I still don't get why Conference USA gets AQ status.

Also, Jeff Sagrin's CPU had NIll above OSU.

UCF is in the AAC.

Obviously, those projections are based on how things will play out.

I predict everyone wins out in the top 4, which would leave Alabama and Oregon in the title game.

The Big XII winner is the most up in the air.

Oklahoma at Baylor
Baylor at Texas Tech
Oklahoma State at Texas
Baylor at Oklahoma State
Texas Tech at Texas
Oklahoma at Oklahoma State
Texas at Baylor

All 5 of these teams can still win it, and as you can see, we're far from undecided.

OU already beat TT
UT already beat OU
OSU already beat TT

Azubuike24;1528882 wrote:UCF is in the AAC.

AKA Conference USA 2004.

pmoney25;1528506 wrote:Uhh Alabama has won 3 of the last 4 national titles. I think they have a right to be #1 until they lose.

They lost last year. Is your argument that Alabama should get an auto-bid to the title game because they won last year? Logic fail.

Sonofanump;1528986 wrote:AKA Conference USA 2004.

Which is meaningless, considering they inherited the BCS bid from the Big East. They shouldn't really get a bid...but they do

sleeper;1529012 wrote:They lost last year. Is your argument that Alabama should get an auto-bid to the title game because they won last year? Logic fail.

All prior years being dismissed, if all 4 teams win out, Alabama and Oregon will have the best resumes.

Azubuike24;1529043 wrote:Alabama and Oregon will have the best resumes.

Neither will be part of a 2-year winning streak...

Azubuike24;1529043 wrote:All prior years being dismissed, if all 4 teams win out, Alabama and Oregon will have the best resumes.

Based on what? Pre-season polls that provide a baseless self fulfilling prophecy?

Yes, that's how college works. It's not a big secret

ernest_t_bass;1529049 wrote:Neither will be part of a 2-year winning streak...

While impressive, OSU hasn't played a team ranked higher than 16 during that time if remember correctly.

I want OSU to win it all but based off the CURRENT system, they won't get a chance and the reason is because of the perception that they don't play anyone worth a damn. Is it fair? No. But it is reality.

pmoney25;1529088 wrote:While impressive, OSU hasn't played a team ranked higher than 16 during that time if remember correctly.

I want OSU to win it all but based off the CURRENT system, they won't get a chance and the reason is because of the perception that they don't play anyone worth a damn. Is it fair? No. But it is reality.

Don't give me that bullshit with "rankings." The difference b/t the almighty SEC and B1G is that SEC starts high in rankings, then they drop, while B1G starts low, then climbs (usually). So, SEC teams go around beating each other while they're all Top 10 teams, when those rankings are far from deserved.

pmoney25;1529088 wrote:the perception that they don't play anyone worth a damn.

Says whom? It's all arbitrary as fuck.

ernest_t_bass;1529095 wrote:Don't give me that bullshit with "rankings." The difference b/t the almighty SEC and B1G is that SEC starts high in rankings, then they drop, while B1G starts low, then climbs (usually). So, SEC teams go around beating each other while they're all Top 10 teams, when those rankings are far from deserved.

I don't disagree with this. That is how the system works. That is why I prefer the NFL. Too much BS in college

ernest_t_bass;1529097 wrote:Says whom? It's all arbitrary as fuck.

The computer ranking system

ernest_t_bass;1529095 wrote:Don't give me that bullshit with "rankings." The difference b/t the almighty SEC and B1G is that SEC starts high in rankings, then they drop, while B1G starts low, then climbs (usually). So, SEC teams go around beating each other while they're all Top 10 teams, when those rankings are far from deserved.

Nope, the difference is that the SEC has been MUCH better. I can't believe people still argue this shit.

ernest_t_bass;1529095 wrote:Don't give me that bullshit with "rankings." The difference b/t the almighty SEC and B1G is that SEC starts high in rankings, then they drop, while B1G starts low, then climbs (usually). So, SEC teams go around beating each other while they're all Top 10 teams, when those rankings are far from deserved.

Big 10 hasn't risen this year, though. I was looking at standings so far this year. In all the other BCS conferences, of two-loss teams, at most one is outside the Top 25. For the Big 10, of their three two-loss teams, only #24 Wisky is ranked. Only BCS conference with less respect is the former Big East, which has a one-loss team outside the Top 25.

That's the ugly thing about college football. It's derived off arbitrary bullshit, such as people guessing who'll be good before the season starts AND pre-conceived notions about conferences. In fairness, the Big 10 hasn't done anything this year to remove those notions, but when you start out the season essentially with a "one great team and a bunch of good to bad ones" reputation, that's a big hurdle to overcome. Every loss or ugly win is blown up by people to validate those notions and you're basically put into a no-win situation unless no one loses a single OOC game and the teams expected to be decent don't stumble at all against perceived lesser teams in conference play.

Michigan State.

Rotinaj;1529104 wrote:Nope, the difference is that the SEC has been MUCH better. I can't believe people still argue this shit.

Jesus... against EACH OTHER.

Azubuike24;1529041 wrote:Which is meaningless, considering they inherited the BCS bid from the Big East. They shouldn't really get a bid...but they do

Exactly.

Azubuike24;1529041 wrote:Which is meaningless, considering they inherited the BCS bid from the Big East. They shouldn't really get a bid...but they do

they have it for one year, I believe.

I find it funny how the B1G fans are griping. It's NOT OSU's problem. It's everyone else in their conference who has failed to get it done.

OSU is legit. They are as legit as it comes. Everyone knows that. The problem is, and the problem with their argument to make the title game, is their conference has been a disappointment. Not just Wisconsin and MSU. They have had good seasons.

Michigan State lost to Notre Dame
Nebraska lost to UCLA
Wisconsin lost to Arizona State
Iowa lost to Northern Illinois
Indiana lost to Missouri
Penn State lost to Central Florida
Northwestern was 4-0 in the OOC, but are 0-5 in the B1G
Michigan beat Notre Dame

Basically, of the 10 possible bowl teams in the conference, 6 have all lost their "big" OOC game, OSU played nobody out of the league and Minnesota has been a nice surprise.