2013 Michigan Wolverines

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Nov 11, 2013 9:19am
Speech Jammer

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Nov 11, 2013 9:29am
Scarlet_Buckeye;1533533 wrote:You our did see what Lewan did to the Spartan player, by grabbing his Facemask, right?
Try to keep up. He wasn't just calling Lewan low class. And I already said I have no problem with anyone calling out his dirty play.
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Nov 11, 2013 9:30am
bo shemmy3337;1533550 wrote:I was at the game Saturday and she sounded horrible. Because I have never heard her speak before I asked the guy behind me if she had something wrong with her.
It was so bad, people were seriously asking if she had a stroke or something.
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Nov 11, 2013 9:31am
Classyposter58;1533553 wrote:So what happens if UM loses out? Is Hoke left with one more chance? I mean 6-6 or 7-5 and a losing B1G record would be devastating. I will say this program is dangerously close to being overran by its two main rivals
He'll get at least another year, but he will be forced to make some staff changes. If he has another year like this in '14, I think they have to consider shopping.
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Nov 11, 2013 9:32am
vball10set;1533604 wrote:Would/could Jim Harbaugh be lured from the NFL?
No.
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Nov 11, 2013 9:33am
Mohican00;1533628 wrote:Johnny Detroit ‏@Johnny_Detroit Northwestern Wildcats are -3 over the #Michigan #Wolverines next Saturday. Last time they were favored over the #MaizeAndBlue? NEVER!
You know it's bad when a team 0-5 in B1G play is favored. :cry:
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Nov 11, 2013 9:55am
WebFire;1533642 wrote:You know it's bad when a team 0-5 in B1G play is favored. :cry:
It's because the B1G is the best conference in the country!

/sleeper'd ;)
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Nov 11, 2013 10:05am
What happened to the Cats? They totally just fell apart after the tOSU game
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Nov 11, 2013 10:20am
Classyposter58;1533669 wrote:What happened to the Cats? They totally just fell apart after the tOSU game
They're the Cats.
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Nov 11, 2013 11:41am
I really thought Hoke would turn this around fairly quickly. He's got the recruiting ability, but the ability to develop that talent seems to be lacking. I know Borges has been the easier scapegoat, but it seems like Hoke is like RR in the fact that he won't change the offense to fit the personnel. Borges has been a legit OC through his career, with his teams averaging something like 30ppg over his career, that ability doesn't just go away.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:14pm
se-alum;1533730 wrote:I really thought Hoke would turn this around fairly quickly. He's got the recruiting ability, but the ability to develop that talent seems to be lacking. I know Borges has been the easier scapegoat, but it seems like Hoke is like RR in the fact that he won't change the offense to fit the personnel. Borges has been a legit OC through his career, with his teams averaging something like 30ppg over his career, that ability doesn't just go away.
Actually, that's not true at all. Hoke wants to run a West Coast type offense. They've done nothing but adapt to this point.

However, the play calling doesn't adapt to their strengths/weaknesses, nor what the defense is doing. That is for damn sure.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:21pm
uh-oh

http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Exclusive-Multiple-Michigan-underclassmen-exploring-transfer-options-10-2-4469
In an exclusive email conversation from a source very close to the Michigan football program, I have learned that in the past week that at least 4, and maybe as many as 7, underclassmen football players, all of whom were high profile recruits, have taken initial exploratory steps to transfer out of the Michigan football program after the current semester is over.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:25pm
Check your sources. This is the infamous Ace at work.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:31pm
vball10set;1533605 wrote:A little too much tailgating, eh?
It was so bad, the University actually sent out a press release today saying that she wasn't drinking before the speech. :RpS_lol:
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Nov 11, 2013 1:33pm
yeah, that's a questionable source to say the least
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Nov 11, 2013 1:34pm
WebFire;1533788 wrote:It was so bad, the University actually sent out a press release today saying that she wasn't drinking before the speech. :RpS_lol:
LJ posted something about that earlier in the thread. I'm sure she wasn't drinking, and my comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. However, it's too bad that her speech came across the PA so poorly. There's prolly nobody more upset than her.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:37pm
WebFire;1533774 wrote:Actually, that's not true at all. Hoke wants to run a West Coast type offense. They've done nothing but adapt to this point.

However, the play calling doesn't adapt to their strengths/weaknesses, nor what the defense is doing. That is for damn sure.
Fair enough. Just from an outsiders standpoint, it seems like they would be better off running a spread option type offense. That way Gardner doesn't have to try to read defenses as much, which he's clearly not very good at.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:40pm
se-alum;1533792 wrote:Fair enough. Just from an outsiders standpoint, it seems like they would be better off running a spread option type offense. That way Gardner doesn't have to try to read defenses as much, which he's clearly not very good at.
They do run some, but suck at it too.
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Nov 11, 2013 1:41pm
vball10set;1533791 wrote:LJ posted something about that earlier in the thread. I'm sure she wasn't drinking, and my comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. However, it's too bad that her speech came across the PA so poorly. There's prolly nobody more upset than her.
Everybody in the stadium was asking the same question. It was pretty bad, whatever the reason.
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Nov 11, 2013 2:02pm
se-alum;1533730 wrote:I really thought Hoke would turn this around fairly quickly. He's got the recruiting ability, but the ability to develop that talent seems to be lacking. I know Borges has been the easier scapegoat, but it seems like Hoke is like RR in the fact that he won't change the offense to fit the personnel. Borges has been a legit OC through his career, with his teams averaging something like 30ppg over his career, that ability doesn't just go away.
The funny part is, the WCO might actually work with this team. They actually ran more that style to open the 2nd half and marched right down the field for a TD. Then went completely back to what wasn't working. Borges is a WCO guy, maybe Hoke isn't? Know one really knows what is going on right now.
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Nov 11, 2013 2:15pm
WebFire;1533802 wrote:The funny part is, the WCO might actually work with this team. They actually ran more that style to open the 2nd half and marched right down the field for a TD. Then went completely back to what wasn't working. Borges is a WCO guy, maybe Hoke isn't? Know one really knows what is going on right now.
Seems like it would be strange for Hoke to hire an OC that didn't have the same philosophies as he does.
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Nov 11, 2013 2:15pm
WebFire;1533774 wrote:Actually, that's not true at all. Hoke wants to run a West Coast type offense. They've done nothing but adapt to this point.

However, the play calling doesn't adapt to their strengths/weaknesses, nor what the defense is doing. That is for damn sure.
They do attempt to run a west coast system though? IMO it's more bad coaching at this point, they are not improving at all and that is exactly what a team should be doing as the season gets going. O-Line isn't good enough to set up for vertical passing attack and lack of running game makes it an ineffective attack. Michigan just is not good at all
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Nov 11, 2013 2:16pm
se-alum;1533813 wrote:Seems like it would be strange for Hoke to hire an OC that didn't have the same philosophies as he does.
Agreed. But Borges is a WCO guy but running very little of it. So the conclusion some come to is that Hoke is forcing something different on him? Kind of like RR who hired a 4-3 guy and forced him to run 3-3-5.
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Nov 11, 2013 2:17pm
Classyposter58;1533814 wrote:They do attempt to run a west coast system though? IMO it's more bad coaching at this point, they are not improving at all and that is exactly what a team should be doing as the season gets going. O-Line isn't good enough to set up for vertical passing attack and lack of running game makes it an ineffective attack. Michigan just is not good at all
They run very little of it, but when they do it is more successful. Like the first drive of 2nd half.
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Nov 11, 2013 2:22pm
Classyposter58;1533814 wrote:They do attempt to run a west coast system though? IMO it's more bad coaching at this point, they are not improving at all and that is exactly what a team should be doing as the season gets going. O-Line isn't good enough to set up for vertical passing attack and lack of running game makes it an ineffective attack. Michigan just is not good at all
Thing is, out of the 3 main coaches, Hoke is the only one without a proven track record. Borges has been at the helm of some really good offenses, and Mattison conducted one of the best defenses in the NFL. So where do you really think the blame lies?