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Jul 18, 2013 5:14pm
Mike Miller cleared waivers.

I'm expecting OKC or SA. I wonder if Memphis will try and sign him, they could use a 3 point shooter to space the floor in the playoffs.
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Jul 18, 2013 6:15pm
Ironman92;1474831 wrote:How are these deals finalized? It's on twitter in multiple areas and it's all but a done deal and supposed to be done late last night or today....but Mullens was in town working out at the high school just a couple hours ago? Do they do a verbal commitment and then sign off on it later or send it via fax or mail?

Just wondering.
I'm guessing the agent handles it? I'm not sure though.
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Jul 18, 2013 9:29pm
robj55;1474859 wrote:I'm guessing the agent handles it? I'm not sure though.
Most likely this. Either make him a literal agent and give him power to bind the athlete or do some kind of power of attorney document. I doubt it's anything difficult/complex. Although I believe some athletes do set up a corporation in their name to handle their assets and such for monetary advantages.
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Jul 18, 2013 9:58pm
Fly4Fun;1474919 wrote:Most likely this. Either make him a literal agent and give him power to bind the athlete or do some kind of power of attorney document. I doubt it's anything difficult/complex. Although I believe some athletes do set up a corporation in their name to handle their assets and such for monetary advantages.

His father-in-law is in charge of his money.....not sure on the agent.
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Jul 19, 2013 1:18pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/ray-allen-credits-media-creating-hordes-bandwagon-miami-165034058.html

Ray Allen pwns the media. What he says makes sense and proves what a joke bandwagon fans are.
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Jul 19, 2013 8:27pm
Apparently, Dennis Schroder is wowing people in the Summer League. I've only seen one game overall, and haven't seen him at all except in the Nike Summit.

Makes the 9M a year deal to Jeff Teague look pretty bad now...wasted cap space.
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Jul 19, 2013 11:53pm
Azubuike24;1475388 wrote:Apparently, Dennis Schroder is wowing people in the Summer League. I've only seen one game overall, and haven't seen him at all except in the Nike Summit.

Makes the 9M a year deal to Jeff Teague look pretty bad now...wasted cap space.
I've seen him a few times, tremendous defensively, even better lateral quickness than Rondo and just as long. Very creative passer and decent shooter, has a good feel for the game. The Rondo comparisons are spot on really.
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Jul 20, 2013 10:35am
robj55;1475442 wrote:I've seen him a few times, tremendous defensively, even better lateral quickness than Rondo and just as long. Very creative passer and decent shooter, has a good feel for the game. The Rondo comparisons are spot on really.
Crazy right? I mean Rondo is pretty damn unique in the way he plays, and now there's a clone lol
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Jul 20, 2013 11:18am
Ironman92;1474923 wrote:His father-in-law is in charge of his money.....not sure on the agent.
Saying his father-in-law is in charge of the money is not something I knew, but it really doesn't lend any insight in to the kind of arrangement they have. His father-in-law could just be doing it as a favor and trusting familial relationship, or they could have something more formal set up.

But there as I was just trying to point out, there are different mechanisms to do this.

Commander of Awesome;1475206 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/ray-allen-credits-media-creating-hordes-bandwagon-miami-165034058.html

Ray Allen pwns the media. What he says makes sense and proves what a joke bandwagon fans are.


I don't think it's the media's "fault" but rather just human nature and simple economics. For some people sports is something more meaningful than pure entertainment as they develop an emotional bond with a team and stick with a team through the good and bad. But then for some people sports is just entertainment and they like to "buy" (by supporting with watching on TV, buying memorabilia, going to games) a product that is the best (or at least a contender for the title). Why would someone who doesn't have a deeper bond beyond simple entertainment waste money and time on a bad product? If I'm going out to eat or buying a new TV I will get the best bang for my buck. The "bandwagon fans" are those same people using that logic for their sports entertainment.
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Jul 20, 2013 9:50pm
Mullens signs with Clippers. Has opt out after 1 year....just a bit over $1 mill a year.

He needs ankle surgery.
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Jul 28, 2013 3:43pm
Surprised this wasnt mentioned before.

But a strong frontline for the Pacers is even better and even deeper now after the aquisition of Luis Scola a few days ago. They traded for Scola and sent Gerald Green, Plumlee and a lottery protected 2014 1st rounder back to the Suns.

Love their offseason thus far. Got rid of Hansborough, Green, Plumlee and Augustine while adding Scola, Chris Copeland, CJ Watson and Donald Sloan. Able to re-sign David West to a pretty friendly 3 year deal.

While Scolas best days are clearly behind him, he should flourish in the Pacers system. Especially considering he will be going against 2nd team units for the most part and will be playing 2nd team minutes. Pacers needed a lot of 2nd team scoring and with Scola, Copeland and Granger (back from injury) I dont think you could have asked for a better off-season for Indy.
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Jul 29, 2013 12:24am
The Central is going to be a lot more formidable next year too. I could see 5 of top 10 records coming from there. Meanwhile, Miami, Brooklyn and New York should rack up wins against terrible teams everywhere else.
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Jul 30, 2013 5:35pm
Brandon Jennings 3 yrs $24 million to the Pistons for Brandon Knight, Khris Middleton, and Slava Kravtsov
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Jul 30, 2013 5:47pm
If people want to know the significance of spacing in basketball, watch the Pistons offense next year compared to San Antonio or Miami. Detroit is going to be AWFUL at shooting.
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Jul 30, 2013 6:55pm
Jennings agreed to only get 8 mil a year???? He was saying he wanted a max deal. Thats a huge compromise
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Jul 30, 2013 7:13pm
Midstate01;1480482 wrote:Jennings agreed to only get 8 mil a year???? He was saying he wanted a max deal. Thats a huge compromise
Maybe he finally realized he isn't that good.
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Jul 30, 2013 7:21pm
Commander of Awesome;1480464 wrote:If people want to know the significance of spacing in basketball, watch the Pistons offense next year compared to San Antonio or Miami. Detroit is going to be AWFUL at shooting.
this
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Jul 31, 2013 9:11am
Drummond/Smith/Monroe isnt really that bad for a frontcourt, But yeah they wont exactly be lighting the gym up shooting % wise at all as a team
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Jul 31, 2013 12:25pm
Whata litlte bitch:

[h=3]Report: Chris Paul Told Clippers He'd Sign With Rockets After Rivers Talks Broke Down[/h] Jul 31, 2013 12:10 PM EDT
Chris Paul informed the Los Angeles Clippers that he was planning on signing with the Houston Rockets to join James Harden and Dwight Howard when the deal for Doc Rivers fell apart, according to a report from ESPN's Bill Simmons.
The Clippers ended negotiations with the Boston Celtics over the compensation they would send in exchange for Rivers.
The Clippers eventually reinitiated talks and send a future first round pick to the Celtics.
Paul subsequently agreed to a $107 million new contract with the Clippers.

Via Bill Simmons/ESPN
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers, Houston Roc
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Jul 31, 2013 12:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1480745 wrote:Whata litlte bitch:

[h=3]Report: Chris Paul Told Clippers He'd Sign With Rockets After Rivers Talks Broke Down[/h] Jul 31, 2013 12:10 PM EDT
Chris Paul informed the Los Angeles Clippers that he was planning on signing with the Houston Rockets to join James Harden and Dwight Howard when the deal for Doc Rivers fell apart, according to a report from ESPN's Bill Simmons.
The Clippers ended negotiations with the Boston Celtics over the compensation they would send in exchange for Rivers.
The Clippers eventually reinitiated talks and send a future first round pick to the Celtics.
Paul subsequently agreed to a $107 million new contract with the Clippers.

Via Bill Simmons/ESPN
Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers, Houston Roc

Sounds smart to me. Forced LAC to step up and hire a good coach. At that point they were probably headed towards Vinny Del Negro 2.0

If you have power, use it.
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Jul 31, 2013 1:26pm
Not a fan of stuff like that. Can't say I'm surprised.
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Jul 31, 2013 1:30pm
Ironman92;1480772 wrote:Not a fan of stuff like that. Can't say I'm surprised.
Why? It's analogous to a coveted worker using an opportunity at another company to leverage a better situation at his current job...I'm sure it happens all the time
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Jul 31, 2013 1:33pm
lhslep134;1480775 wrote:Why? It's analogous to a coveted worker using an opportunity at another company to leverage a better situation at his current job...I'm sure it happens all the time

That's fine....I'm not a fan of Chris Paul threatening to take his ball elsewhere.
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Jul 31, 2013 1:36pm
Ironman92;1480778 wrote:That's fine....I'm not a fan of Chris Paul threatening to take his ball elsewhere.
He is a free agent (well, was). I see no issue with it. In fact, I like the honesty. Get a better coach, I'll sign long term. Don't, and I'll go somewhere I think is better prepared to win.
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Jul 31, 2013 1:37pm
Ironman92;1480778 wrote:That's fine....I'm not a fan of Chris Paul threatening to take his ball elsewhere.
Understandable