ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 9, 2013 8:44am
Maybe he meant 20/12Rotinaj;1469728 wrote:Bynum make 20/20 look easy? This is a joke right?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 9, 2013 9:29am
Best of luck with him. Seems like a monster cancer to me. His potential when he was on the Lakers was just ridiculous.
Of course it isn't a risk for the Cleveland fans.
Of course it isn't a risk for the Cleveland fans.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 9, 2013 9:33am
like_that;1466423 wrote:He is going to be a bitch and demand a ridiculous contract. Count me out. I like the other guys you listed though.
You don't seem interested here. I know it's not a ridiculous contract at all....but this post doesn't say a lot about potential.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 9, 2013 9:38am
He obviously was talking as if they had to sign him to a long-term contract.Ironman92;1469744 wrote:You don't seem interested here. I know it's not a ridiculous contract at all....but this post doesn't say a lot about potential.
Your post above "good for Cleveland fans" no it's good for EVERYONE. Even Gilbert, because it shows people his team can sign a big free agent signing (something that is currently in doubt in Cleveland land)...the money is no object for Gilbert. The money has to be spent somewhere or else they'd be hit with a tax.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 9, 2013 9:42am
That's fine....he's an easy all-star+ talent and averaging 44 games a season the past 6 years he needs to prove himself again to get a huge contract in 2 years.
He should have a little chip on his shoulder.
He should have a little chip on his shoulder.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 9, 2013 9:48am
I think you knew damn well what I mean, but I will explain it to you. Ridiculous contract would = multiple years and big money that would handicap the team cap wise. A one year deal with a team option does not handicap the team at all. As I said earlier, the only risk is to Gilbert's check book, and he clearly has shown the last few years he does not give a fuck about wasting money if it means setting the team up to be in a good position to succeed.Ironman92;1469744 wrote:You don't seem interested here. I know it's not a ridiculous contract at all....but this post doesn't say a lot about potential.
Nice reach with that quote though.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 9, 2013 10:56am
I'm not saying average. But he and Dwight are the only two guy who at the end of the game you look up a d they have 20/20Rotinaj;1469728 wrote:Bynum make 20/20 look easy? This is a joke right?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 9, 2013 11:11am
like_that;1469751 wrote:I think you knew damn well what I mean, but I will explain it to you. Ridiculous contract would = multiple years and big money that would handicap the team cap wise. A one year deal with a team option does not handicap the team at all. As I said earlier, the only risk is to Gilbert's check book, and he clearly has shown the last few years he does not give a fuck about wasting money if it means setting the team up to be in a good position to succeed.
Nice reach with that quote though.
You got a little mad....pls stay calm and enjoy your day.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 9, 2013 11:14am
He had 2 20/20 games in 2012-13 which was his best and last year. That being said,I definitely think he's the 2nd best center In the league when healthy and would love to have him if he can play. Just thought the easy 20/20 post was a little crazy.Laley23;1469778 wrote:I'm not saying average. But he and Dwight are the only two guy who at the end of the game you look up a d they have 20/20
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 9, 2013 11:14am
Yeah, very pissed that you still don't understand the offer. :rolleyes:Ironman92;1469793 wrote:You got a little mad....pls stay calm and enjoy your day.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 9, 2013 11:23am
Caavs trying to hit the home run, have to like that.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 9, 2013 1:47pm
Kevin Love and Zbo tooLaley23;1469778 wrote:I'm not saying average. But he and Dwight are the only two guy who at the end of the game you look up a d they have 20/20
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 9, 2013 1:56pm
Rotinaj;1469796 wrote:He had 2 20/20 games in 2012-13 which was his best and last year. That being said,I definitely think he's the 2nd best center In the league when healthy and would love to have him if he can play. Just thought the easy 20/20 post was a little crazy.
Yeah, I mean Im not saying he will be getting 20/20 once a week. Im just saying that he and Dwight seem to be able to pull down insane amount of rebounds and it doesnt even look like its hard for them. They routinely seem to be approaching 10 by halftime.
Good call. Griffin as well...but hes a douche, so fuck him.Hb31187;1469849 wrote:Kevin Love and Zbo too
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 9, 2013 3:24pm
Yes yes he is, I truly cannot stand himLaley23;1469853 wrote:Yeah, I mean Im not saying he will be getting 20/20 once a week. Im just saying that he and Dwight seem to be able to pull down insane amount of rebounds and it doesnt even look like its hard for them. They routinely seem to be approaching 10 by halftime.
Good call. Griffin as well...but hes a douche, so **** him.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 9, 2013 3:36pm
like_that;1469711 wrote:Yeah, I don't think ironman gets this potential signing at all.
I guess "potential" is the word that's killing me. I understand that he's got max deal talent and has a serious reason to have a great year and get a gigantic contract that can pretty much let him and his family do whatever they want for the rest of his life.
Your owner has something to prove and getting Bynum shows he's willing and that you gotta commend....but I just see Bynum as the ridiculously talented guy that is more "do the minimum amount to get by" than "work my tail off, never look back and show them how good I am"
In the end, I don't see you Cleveland fans liking him at all....but I do understand the potential he brings. If he does well and greatly helps the Cavs it won't bother me at all....and he can't be great for the Cavs if Dan doesn't go get him...so we'll see.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 9, 2013 3:39pm
I said "potential," because he hasn't signed yet. The fact of the matter is if he is a complete flop, the only thing that will hurt is Gilbert's check book, which he drops money all the time.Ironman92;1469917 wrote:I guess "potential" is the word that's killing me. I understand that he's got max deal talent and has a serious reason to have a great year and get a gigantic contract that can pretty much let him and his family do whatever they want for the rest of his life.
Your owner has something to prove and getting Bynum shows he's willing and that you gotta commend....but I just see Bynum as the ridiculously talented guy that is more "do the minimum amount to get by" than "work my tail off, never look back and show them how good I am"
In the end, I don't see you Cleveland fans liking him at all....but I do understand the potential he brings. If he does well and greatly helps the Cavs it won't bother me at all....and he can't be great for the Cavs if Dan doesn't go get him...so we'll see.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jul 9, 2013 4:27pm
This. Not to mention its rumored to be incentive laden so he wouldn't get the full $12M or whatever number is being thrown around by "getting by doing the minimum". Don't see any long term risk in a 1 year incentive laden contract with a team option in year 2.like_that;1469920 wrote:I said "potential," because he hasn't signed yet. The fact of the matter is if he is a complete flop, the only thing that will hurt is Gilbert's check book, which he drops money all the time.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 9, 2013 5:14pm
So what if he flops I92? I don't know why you are harping on that and Cleveland fans not liking him? Who gives a shit? If that's the case, he won't be back. It's not like they are tied to him for 7 years...
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 9, 2013 6:29pm
This is a win win situation for the cavs. They have no reason NOT to take the risk.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 9, 2013 6:34pm
Midstate01;1469979 wrote:This is a win win situation for the cavs. They have no reason NOT to take the risk.
Outside of "losing" money, there aren't really any negatives IMO.
If(and of course this is a huge if right now) he plays to his potential, he will be a force inside. And if he doesn't, they cut him loose.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 9, 2013 6:47pm
Nikola Vucevic says bitch please.Laley23;1469778 wrote:I'm not saying average. But he and Dwight are the only two guy who at the end of the game you look up a d they have 20/20
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 9, 2013 9:22pm
Laley23;1469778 wrote:I'm not saying average. But he and Dwight are the only two guy who at the end of the game you look up a d they have 20/20
Rotinaj;1469796 wrote:He had 2 20/20 games in 2012-13 which was his best and last year. That being said,I definitely think he's the 2nd best center In the league when healthy and would love to have him if he can play. Just thought the easy 20/20 post was a little crazy.
Hb31187;1469849 wrote:Kevin Love and Zbo too
Cousins, Noah, and Vucevic were the only guys with multiple 20/20 games this season. First two had 2 each, Vucevic had 4.Mulva;1469987 wrote:Nikola Vucevic says bitch please.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 9, 2013 9:24pm
Holy shit. 2010-2011, Love had eleven 20/20 games
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 9, 2013 9:32pm
Yeah, he is a monster.GOONx19;1470049 wrote:Holy shit. 2010-2011, Love had eleven 20/20 games
I think a healthy Bynum, with 35+ min a game can get a lot of 20/20 as well.
I'd say love, Dwight and Bynum would have the most when all 3 are healthy and getting minutes.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 9, 2013 10:21pm
Wayne Ellington signs with Dallas.