Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 17, 2015 3:56pm
You would never confuse me with someone who does any sort of long distance cardio. However, I'll admit that going to the pool and just swimming laps for an hour is relaxing, helps the joints and kicks my ass all at the same time.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 17, 2015 3:59pm
I have such shitty swimming form, otherwise I would do it all the time.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 17, 2015 4:06pm
Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. I would love to swim more but biking is a much more efficient cardio workout for me since I have terrible form as well.like_that;1735714 wrote:I have such shitty swimming form, otherwise I would do it all the time.
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Sonofanump
Jun 17, 2015 6:46pm
I see these articles that you (collective) post about how running is bad for you, walking is good, but I have yet to see an article address distance cycling, which is low impact, slow pendling, pushing down hard with the thigh (almost a strength movement). The only drawback that I can see is hunching over unnaturally, making the back sore. I'm not out to join a 100 mile daily tour, but enjoy putting down 20-45 miles once every 7-10 days.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 17, 2015 6:48pm
I watched a youtube video a few months ago titled "5 worst swimming stroke habits," or some shit like that. I do all 5 of them lol.lhslep134;1735718 wrote:Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. I would love to swim more but biking is a much more efficient cardio workout for me since I have terrible form as well.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 17, 2015 8:26pm
Zero knee issues as I was increasing my jogging from walking....knee started when I did the 4 mile walk on Sunday. Anyways I know the jogging did it but I was doing so well...it's frustrating. Going to give it a couple more days and get some better insoles. Hate how long the long walk takes.BR1986FB;1735705 wrote:Go back to walking for distance. Your body will thank you in the end.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 18, 2015 8:09am
The reason I don't post them is because a) I don't do them b) I can't swim and c) I rarely see people posting on here about wanting to do them. As I said, I don't do them but I'd take swimming (#1) over biking (#2) and distance running (very distant 3rd).Sonofanump;1735741 wrote:I see these articles that you (collective) post about how running is bad for you, walking is good, but I have yet to see an article address distance cycling, which is low impact, slow pendling, pushing down hard with the thigh (almost a strength movement). The only drawback that I can see is hunching over unnaturally, making the back sore. I'm not out to join a 100 mile daily tour, but enjoy putting down 20-45 miles once every 7-10 days.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 18, 2015 8:11am
Do you actually enjoy jogging or is it something you're doing to get it shape/lose weight? If you enjoy it, carry on. If you're looking to get in shape.... walk, run sprints or push/carry heavy shit.Ironman92;1735751 wrote:Zero knee issues as I was increasing my jogging from walking....knee started when I did the 4 mile walk on Sunday. Anyways I know the jogging did it but I was doing so well...it's frustrating. Going to give it a couple more days and get some better insoles. Hate how long the long walk takes.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 18, 2015 9:29am
I was enjoying my improvement. I coach XC and like to jog with the kids...at least the same route, but am not going to do that this year if my knee is in any pain.BR1986FB;1735814 wrote:Do you actually enjoy jogging or is it something you're doing to get it shape/lose weight? If you enjoy it, carry on. If you're looking to get in shape.... walk, run sprints or push/carry heavy shit.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Jun 18, 2015 2:32pm
Also depends what you consider in shape? Looking ripped? Your method works. Being able to join your buddies in a run/race, keep up playing frisbee/basketball, etc? Not sure walking/running sprints will help with that totally.BR1986FB;1735814 wrote:Do you actually enjoy jogging or is it something you're doing to get it shape/lose weight? If you enjoy it, carry on. If you're looking to get in shape.... walk, run sprints or push/carry heavy shit.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 19, 2015 7:59am
I'd agree with your premise if you're talking running a distance race but I'll take sprints for a basketball game or Frisbee any day of the week over jogging. I posted an article earlier about distance running in which boxers have been brainwashed into thinking that logging heavy miles on the road will be best for their "in fight" endurance. Sounds like that's not necessarily the case.Zoltan;1735912 wrote:Also depends what you consider in shape? Looking ripped? Your method works. Being able to join your buddies in a run/race, keep up playing frisbee/basketball, etc? Not sure walking/running sprints will help with that totally.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 19, 2015 8:14am
There are some highly-touted and successful triathalon and marathon training programs that involve very, very low volume at a high intensity. Peak training distance at any time is 7-8 miles, yet very, very interval based and much less total time at a higher heart rate. Against unconventional wisdom, it translates into long distances.
Put it this way. If you can do 10 intervals of say (10 MPH sprints for 45 seconds) and rest for 75 seconds, you can assuredly play a pickup basketball game for an hour.
Put it this way. If you can do 10 intervals of say (10 MPH sprints for 45 seconds) and rest for 75 seconds, you can assuredly play a pickup basketball game for an hour.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 21, 2015 1:58pm
The 100 Laws of Muscle....I love #16...so true......
https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/100-laws-of-muscle
https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/100-laws-of-muscle
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 23, 2015 1:53pm
Ok Br....you are old and sprint so help me out here
took a week off for my knee and today took a 30 min walk the I ended at our high school track....once there I did 4 laps and on each one I walked about 2/3 and did 3 short sprints at different points while going around....did that for 4 laps and it felt good. My problem is I know my achilles will be on fire this evening and tomorrow. You have that issue? I plan on just doing some plantar fasciitis aleving stretches.
took a week off for my knee and today took a 30 min walk the I ended at our high school track....once there I did 4 laps and on each one I walked about 2/3 and did 3 short sprints at different points while going around....did that for 4 laps and it felt good. My problem is I know my achilles will be on fire this evening and tomorrow. You have that issue? I plan on just doing some plantar fasciitis aleving stretches.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 23, 2015 1:56pm
Does that happen often to your achilles? Happens to mine once in awhile and icing it helps. May be a result of compensating for the knee issue.Ironman92;1736824 wrote:Ok Br....you are old and sprint so help me out here
took a week off for my knee and today took a 30 min walk the I ended at our high school track....once there I did 4 laps and on each one I walked about 2/3 and did 3 short sprints at different points while going around....did that for 4 laps and it felt good. My problem is I know my achilles will be on fire this evening and tomorrow. You have that issue? I plan on just doing some plantar fasciitis aleving stretches.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 23, 2015 2:04pm
No compensating....I'm almost 41 and there aren't a lot of sprinting type things in my life. And by sprint it's not a top speed spring but more of a build up that gets probably to about 90% of my maximum and a short duration hold of that speed.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 23, 2015 2:07pm
I hear ya on the sprinting thing! I know when I get one issue there is usually another one on the other leg soon to follow as the body naturally compensates to ease one issue but causes another.Ironman92;1736832 wrote:No compensating....I'm almost 41 and there aren't a lot of sprinting type things in my life. And by sprint it's not a top speed spring but more of a build up that gets probably to about 90% of my maximum and a short duration hold of that speed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 24, 2015 8:11am
I do have plantar fasciitis but I don't have the issue with the Achilles being on fire. My biggest issue with sprints is not getting warmed up enough and pulling a hammy or groin.Ironman92;1736824 wrote:Ok Br....you are old and sprint so help me out here
took a week off for my knee and today took a 30 min walk the I ended at our high school track....once there I did 4 laps and on each one I walked about 2/3 and did 3 short sprints at different points while going around....did that for 4 laps and it felt good. My problem is I know my achilles will be on fire this evening and tomorrow. You have that issue? I plan on just doing some plantar fasciitis aleving stretches.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 24, 2015 11:44am
Have you tried icing right after ironman? I was having trouble with my knees/ankles after runs when recovering from torn pcl&meniscus. Icing and stretching really helped me quite a bit.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 24, 2015 12:09pm
I would suggest that as well.Commander of Awesome;1737018 wrote:Have you tried icing right after ironman? I was having trouble with my knees/ankles after runs when recovering from torn pcl&meniscus. Icing and stretching really helped me quite a bit.
At my age, similar to ironman, ice becomes your best friend. Sucks, but it is the price ya pay!
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Sonofanump
Jun 25, 2015 5:52pm
I think you are supposed to put a can of vegetables in the freezer, then roll you foot over it.Ironman92;1736824 wrote:Ok Br....you are old and sprint so help me out here
took a week off for my knee and today took a 30 min walk the I ended at our high school track....once there I did 4 laps and on each one I walked about 2/3 and did 3 short sprints at different points while going around....did that for 4 laps and it felt good. My problem is I know my achilles will be on fire this evening and tomorrow. You have that issue? I plan on just doing some plantar fasciitis aleving stretches.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 27, 2015 9:38am
I don't swim, lift weights, run, workout ..... But I can increase your strength and energy level.... I can prove it ... In 10 seconds.
At the end of your work out how many ( your best reps) can you do on want ever weight or equipment you complete your workout with? I can increase it by three reps ......In 10 seconds. What to prove me wrong....
At the end of your work out how many ( your best reps) can you do on want ever weight or equipment you complete your workout with? I can increase it by three reps ......In 10 seconds. What to prove me wrong....
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 27, 2015 10:04am
Haven't I seen this somewhere before?Belly35;1737567 wrote:I don't swim, lift weights, run, workout ..... But I can increase your strength and energy level.... I can prove it ... In 10 seconds.
At the end of your work out how many ( your best reps) can you do on want ever weight or equipment you complete your workout with? I can increase it by three reps ......In 10 seconds. What to prove me wrong....
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 27, 2015 10:35am
I can improve your English, in just 10 seconds.Belly35;1737567 wrote:I don't swim, lift weights, run, workout ..... But I can increase your strength and energy level.... I can prove it ... In 10 seconds.
At the end of your work out how many ( your best reps) can you do on want ever weight or equipment you complete your workout with? I can increase it by three reps ......In 10 seconds. What to prove me wrong....
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 27, 2015 11:29am
sorry I'm goodernest_t_bass;1737572 wrote:I can improve your English, in just 10 seconds.
i said I can prove it ... I would be willing to meet anyone ( within my area) to prove my statement.