karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 2:12am
Midstate01;1448397 wrote:Wait what?? I'm not comparing it to penn state.
I'm saying some kid sexually assaults a girl and he stays in school
Hell Kelly gets a kid killed at practice..nothing.
Cheat on a test(s) , gone.
I know what you are trying to say.
Midstate01
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May 26, 2013 2:15am
What I'm saying is this HAS to be deeper then cheating on a test or two. No way that gets a star athlete kicked out of school.
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 2:27am
Midstate01;1448399 wrote:What I'm saying is this HAS to be deeper then cheating on a test or two. No way that gets a star athlete kicked out of school.
yeah, you're probably right...
killer_ewok
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May 26, 2013 8:18am
Midstate01;1448397 wrote:
I'm saying some kid sexually allegedly assaults a girl and he stays in school
I think it's fair to put "allegedly" in there.
killer_ewok
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May 26, 2013 8:21am
Midstate01;1448399 wrote:What I'm saying is this HAS to be deeper then cheating on a test or two. No way that gets a star athlete kicked out of school.
Not so sure about this. I think being found cheating (not just being accused of it but that being proven to have occurred) on finals is a pretty big deal.
EDIT: Just saw this...
@BFeldmanCBS: RT @John_Infante: If Everett Golson is out due to an academic violation, he can’t get a scholarship anywhere next year.
killer_ewok
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May 26, 2013 8:35am
@rakesofmallow: RT @ccugliari ND QB Idea #2: Check in on Jason Street's rehab and honor his scholarship offer.
LOL
LOL
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 11:17am
Latest is Golson withdrew and wasn't expelled which will give him the opportunity to reapply. He'd probably need to take a semester off and then return after this season. Similar to what Julius Jones did in really 2000s and Darrin Walls did a few years ago.
Midstate01
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May 26, 2013 12:51pm
karen lotz;1448479 wrote:Latest is Golson withdrew and wasn't expelled which will give him the opportunity to reapply. He'd probably need to take a semester off and then return after this season. Similar to what Julius Jones did in really 2000s and Darrin Walls did a few years ago.
Saw on twitter hes possibly headed to ole miss??
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 1:08pm
Midstate01;1448490 wrote:Saw on twitter hes possibly headed to ole miss??
Has already been debunked on a ND pay site. They have talked to a staff member and Golson has told ND he will be back when he can.
Classyposter58
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May 26, 2013 3:07pm
If he goes to Ole Miss something fishy is upMidstate01;1448490 wrote:Saw on twitter hes possibly headed to ole miss??
Midstate01
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May 26, 2013 4:00pm
@jbook: 247 saying Clemson could be a landing spot for Everett Golson. I wonder how that would play out with Deshaun Watson.
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 4:05pm
lol, Golson just spoke with Tom Rinaldi and told him he was suspended for academic performance and intends to return to Notre Dame next spring.
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 4:07pm
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9313557/everett-golson-banned-notre-dame-fighting-irish-poor-academic-judgment
"I have been informed by the University of Notre Dame that due to my poor academic judgment that I have been suspended from the University for the 2013 Fall Term," Golson said. "I take full responsibility for my poor choices and will do all that is asked of me to regain the trust of my family, friends, teammates, coaches and the entire Notre Dame community."
"My parents and the community I grew up in have instilled values in me that have and will continue to allow me to be successful in the future," he said. "There have been many lessons learned as I worked to become the starting quarterback at Notre Dame and each was a result of Coach Kelly's belief in me as an athlete and a person.
"At this point, I understand how my integrity could be in question but I want to reassure my supporters that through this experience I will return a better student athlete as well as a better individual.
"Lastly, I want to thank the University of Notre Dame for the opportunity already granted and also the opportunity going forth to regain my eligibility in the winter of 2014."
Midstate01
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May 26, 2013 4:07pm
Does he lose a year of eligilbility still?
karen lotz
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May 26, 2013 4:14pm
Midstate01;1448528 wrote:Does he lose a year of eligilbility still?
yeah I'm sure he would as he already took a redshirt. He'd have 2 possible years left.
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vball10set
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May 26, 2013 4:16pm
It takes a certain type of kid to come back after this, especially at ND (see the aforementioned Julius Jones), so it'll be interesting to see if Golson has the fortitude to do it.
killer_ewok
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May 27, 2013 9:49am
karen lotz;1448479 wrote:Latest is Golson withdrew and wasn't expelled which will give him the opportunity to reapply. He'd probably need to take a semester off and then return after this season. Similar to what Julius Jones did in really 2000s and Darrin Walls did a few years ago.
Definitely not as bad as the initial reports/rumors. Still not good obviously but slacking off isn't as bad as cheating. I'll be rooting for him to get his academic affairs in order as I want him to return and play but this is something that he can learn from. Getting that degree is more important than football and just about everything else at this point in his life. Best of luck to him.
karen lotz
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May 28, 2013 3:09pm
BK conference call at 3:30 and then will be on college football live with Tom Rinaldi today as well.
Crimson streak
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May 28, 2013 3:19pm
Now the question begins who is the starter for this year? Honestly I feel like Zaire gives us the best chance to win. He is very talented possibly more talented than golson.
karen lotz
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May 28, 2013 3:24pm
better runner than Golson, but needs a lot of work throwing the ball.
sherm03
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May 28, 2013 3:34pm
I don't think there is a question at the QB position. Kelly has a hard on for Rees. He'll be the starter, and Hendrix will be brought in every once in awhile as a change-of-pace guy. I highly doubt that Kelly burns Zaire this year...especially if there's a chance of Golson coming back next year.
I think it's going to be a really hard season to watch this year.
I think it's going to be a really hard season to watch this year.
Crimson streak
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May 28, 2013 3:47pm
sherm03;1449307 wrote:I don't think there is a question at the QB position. Kelly has a hard on for Rees. He'll be the starter, and Hendrix will be brought in every once in awhile as a change-of-pace guy. I highly doubt that Kelly burns Zaire this year...especially if there's a chance of Golson coming back next year.
I think it's going to be a really hard season to watch this year.
Brian Kelly really like Zaire also. I think we will see all 3 this year
karen lotz
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May 28, 2013 3:56pm
nothing really interesting in BK conference call. said he's like a dad in a sense that he's glad that Golson took responsibility but is disappointed in him for putting himself in this situation. all 3 qb's will get a shot for playing time. said it was the university's decision, not the football staff's and if Golson takes care of what he needs to academically and the school allows him to come back in January, he will be a part of the team. no other programs have contacted the staff or ND compliance about being interested in Golson.
he also said he expects Vanderdoes to report with the rest of the incoming freshmen in a couple weeks, but understands there is always a surprise or two and that he isn't concerned with who doesn't show up at this point.
he also said he expects Vanderdoes to report with the rest of the incoming freshmen in a couple weeks, but understands there is always a surprise or two and that he isn't concerned with who doesn't show up at this point.
Crimson streak
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May 28, 2013 4:45pm
karen lotz;1449310 wrote:nothing really interesting in BK conference call. said he's like a dad in a sense that he's glad that Golson took responsibility but is disappointed in him for putting himself in this situation. all 3 qb's will get a shot for playing time. said it was the university's decision, not the football staff's and if Golson takes care of what he needs to academically and the school allows him to come back in January, he will be a part of the team. no other programs have contacted the staff or ND compliance about being interested in Golson.
he also said he expects Vanderdoes to report with the rest of the incoming freshmen in a couple weeks, but understands there is always a surprise or two and that he isn't concerned with who doesn't show up at this point.
That's really interesting about vanderdoes. I didn't think he will report. But then again in his position he has nothing to lose and should give ND a shot and he might end up loving it and staying
karen lotz
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May 28, 2013 4:48pm
Crimson streak;1449327 wrote:That's really interesting about vanderdoes. I didn't think he will report. But then again in his position he has nothing to lose and should give ND a shot and he might end up loving it and staying
Eh I read it as Kelly didn't really want to talk about the situation and they weren't releasing him from the LOI, so in his eyes, he is supposed to report. I would be shocked if he shows up.