Fly4Fun
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Jan 9, 2013 9:39pm
ESPN radio was saying there was serious interest from both sides. But I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a bargaining chip as mentioned.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 9, 2013 9:42pm
A little off topic but Mirko Jurkovic died today. Only 42 years old....colon cancer. I got his autograph at an ND Spring game back in 1990 or 91. RIP
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 9, 2013 11:21pm
Who in their right mind would want Brian Kelly as their coach?!
Did they watch the title game?
Did they watch the title game?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 9, 2013 11:32pm
good point.SportsAndLady;1362404 wrote:Who in their right mind would want Brian Kelly as their coach?!
Did they watch the title game?
karen lotz
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Jan 10, 2013 1:19am
Keith Arnold ‏@KeithArnoldNBC
Agent Trace Armstrong reps Brian Kelly... and Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter, according to his wiki page. Hmm.
Agent Trace Armstrong reps Brian Kelly... and Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter, according to his wiki page. Hmm.
karen lotz
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Jan 10, 2013 3:27pm
looks like Anzalone decommitted and will EE at Florida this weekend.
sherm03
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Jan 10, 2013 3:46pm
Yep...big time bummer.karen lotz;1363105 wrote:looks like Anzalone decommitted and will EE at Florida this weekend.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jan 10, 2013 3:52pm
Kid seems skiddish. Left Ohio State because of a creepy fan, left ND because of an interview which looks to be purely for contract leverage. I hate seeing kids decommit so close to signing day for any team except for extentuating circumstances like Penn State last year.sherm03;1363124 wrote:Yep...big time bummer.
se-alum
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Jan 10, 2013 6:30pm
Kid seems very strange.
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vball10set
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Jan 10, 2013 6:32pm
Maybe it's for the better, time will tell.
Classyposter58
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Jan 10, 2013 9:11pm
Dude is a weirdo, belongs in West Virginia or Virginia Tech with the rest of the bunchvball10set;1363265 wrote:Maybe it's for the better, time will tell.
bradmaynard
Posts: 277
Jan 10, 2013 11:29pm
Isn't EE on Saturday? So, if BK wasn't seriously considering moving to the NFL and simply wanted a raise why didn't he wait until the kids enrolled and got settled? Furthermore, he got ND to the title game and was touting the number one recruiting class in the nation. Why couldn't he simply ask for a raise? I mean can you honestly say ND has a history of withholding money from coaches that do anything remotely resembling productivity, let alone this guy's 2012 resume?
Midstate01
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Jan 11, 2013 12:59am
bradmaynard;1363511 wrote:Isn't EE on Saturday? So, if BK wasn't seriously considering moving to the NFL and simply wanted a raise why didn't he wait until the kids enrolled and got settled? Furthermore, he got ND to the title game and was touting the number one recruiting class in the nation. Why couldn't he simply ask for a raise? I mean can you honestly say ND has a history of withholding money from coaches that do anything remotely resembling productivity, let alone this guy's 2012 resume?
I don't understand that either. If you want more money, just ask. It's not like nd hasn't thrown an ass ton of money to a coach for going to a bcs game before.
Fly4Fun
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Jan 11, 2013 9:27am
Good points there. I think the longer we go along without hearing about a new deal with Notre Dame the worse this gets for Irish fans.bradmaynard;1363511 wrote:Isn't EE on Saturday? So, if BK wasn't seriously considering moving to the NFL and simply wanted a raise why didn't he wait until the kids enrolled and got settled? Furthermore, he got ND to the title game and was touting the number one recruiting class in the nation. Why couldn't he simply ask for a raise? I mean can you honestly say ND has a history of withholding money from coaches that do anything remotely resembling productivity, let alone this guy's 2012 resume?
Crimson streak
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Jan 11, 2013 9:47am
I hear its more of a ploy to get his assistant coached more money. Right now the assistant are getting as much as a middle of the pack big ten teams. As for anzalone, the bk rumors to the nfl had nothing to do with it. He wanted to leave and go to Florida and was just using it as an excuse. (Dad is a Florida alum) either way it sucks to lose him but if he didn't want to be here then I don't want the kid to be here.
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vball10set
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Jan 11, 2013 11:19am
I was listening to Bill King on CSN this morning, and he laid out a scenario that he thought needed to be considered: Trace Armstrong is not only the agent for Brian Kelly, but for Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter as well (the two who reported Kelly interviewing with the Eagles). Anzalone was reported to have de-committed from ND because of this "leaked" news, thus enrolling at Florida. Guess where Armstrong played his final year of college football? Yup, he was a Gator. Coincidence? Maybe (King's words, not mine)Crimson streak;1363706 wrote:As for anzalone, the bk rumors to the nfl had nothing to do with it. He wanted to leave and go to Florida and was just using it as an excuse. (Dad is a Florida alum) either way it sucks to lose him but if he didn't want to be here then I don't want the kid to be here.
edit: Streak, for the record, I think your scenario is more than likely the way it went down.
Crimson streak
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Jan 11, 2013 11:38am
vball10set;1363786 wrote:I was listening to Bill King on CSN this morning, and he laid out a scenario that he thought needed to be considered: Trace Armstrong is not only the agent for Brian Kelly, but for Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter as well (the two who reported Kelly interviewing with the Eagles). Anzalone was reported to have de-committed from ND because of this "leaked" news, thus enrolling at Florida. Guess where Armstrong played his final year of college football? Yup, he was a Gator. Coincidence? Maybe (King's words, not mine)
edit: Streak, for the record, I think your scenario is more than likely the way it went down.
If Armstrong pulled that he would lose a lot of money considering Brian Kelly would fire him. So I doubt that to be true. It's all a ploy to get more money for him and his assistants. The ad was probably playing hard ball and Kelly more than likely had to take this Approach.
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vball10set
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Jan 11, 2013 12:15pm
^^^yeah, I see your point. It's amazing how someone (anyone, really) can come to any conclusion they desire if they connect the right dots.
Midstate01
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Jan 11, 2013 12:37pm
Crimson streak;1363706 wrote:I hear its more of a ploy to get his assistant coached more money. Right now the assistant are getting as much as a middle of the pack big ten teams. As for anzalone, the bk rumors to the nfl had nothing to do with it. He wanted to leave and go to Florida and was just using it as an excuse. (Dad is a Florida alum) either way it sucks to lose him but if he didn't want to be here then I don't want the kid to be here.
I don't think he EVER wanted to go to uf. Daddy always did though.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 11, 2013 12:42pm
I just don't buy it that bk is trying to get more money. ND always gives ridiculous money and extensions to its coaches when they have a good year. Bk could walk in the ad's door and say "pay me" and they'd bend over backwards to do it. Why wouldn't they?? If they were willing to overpay willingham and weis, why not go all in on bk too? I think bk has real interest in the nfl and his style actually fits it pretty well. But he's probably best to stay at nd.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jan 11, 2013 12:54pm
Well for one, how did over paying Tyrone and Chaz work out? There is also a different AD. Swarbrick is a little different than Kevin White. We'll very likely never know what is going on behind the scenes.
Maybe Kelly really wants to leave. Maybe he wants a raise and extension. Maybe he wants his staff to be better compensated. Maybe he wants field turf and a jumbotron. No one knows, especially people like John Clayton.
Maybe Kelly really wants to leave. Maybe he wants a raise and extension. Maybe he wants his staff to be better compensated. Maybe he wants field turf and a jumbotron. No one knows, especially people like John Clayton.
bradmaynard
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Jan 11, 2013 8:26pm
Why would he need an excuse to decommit? Are you telling me if BK didn't do the interview this week he would be in South Bend getting unpacked right now because he couldn't find a good enough reason to go to Florida? I mean just deciding on Florida being the best possible place for him to succeed based on personal preference wouldn't be a solid enough excuse to ditch last minute? Does a 17-18 year old kid even need an excuse?Crimson streak;1363706 wrote:I hear its more of a ploy to get his assistant coached more money. Right now the assistant are getting as much as a middle of the pack big ten teams. As for anzalone, the bk rumors to the nfl had nothing to do with it. He wanted to leave and go to Florida and was just using it as an excuse. (Dad is a Florida alum) either way it sucks to lose him but if he didn't want to be here then I don't want the kid to be here.
Also, ND was going after Meyer, Stoops, etc prior to hiring BK and those guys would demand just as much if not more than what BK could possibly ask for now only before they ever stepped foot on campus. When it comes to winning, money isn't an issue in South Bend. BK knows this, so to say this is some sort of leveraging tactic considering the school and the timing seems like a leap to me.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 11, 2013 8:34pm
bradmaynard;1364111 wrote:Why would he need an excuse to decommit? Are you telling me if BK didn't do the interview this week he would be in South Bend getting unpacked right now because he couldn't find a good enough reason to go to Florida? I mean just deciding on Florida being the best possible place for him to succeed based on personal preference wouldn't be a solid enough excuse to ditch last minute? Does a 17-18 year old kid even need an excuse?
Also, ND was going after Meyer, Stoops, etc prior to hiring BK and those guys would demand just as much if not more than what BK could possibly ask for now only before they ever stepped foot on campus. When it comes to winning, money isn't an issue in South Bend. BK knows this, so to say this is some sort of leveraging tactic considering the school and the timing seems like a leap to me.
I'm saying anzalone is using it as an excuse. He was gone regardless if bk interviewed or not. As for the money thing, like I said maybe the ad was playing hard ball with him about it and this was the step he needed to take to make sure his assistants don't leave and get paid like they deserve to. And you know how agents are when it comes to a new contract. They try anything possible to get you the most money
bradmaynard
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Jan 11, 2013 9:55pm
Second paragraph has nothing to do with what you said, didn't realize I used also to start it off. If he had left because he changed his mind last minute based on anything but that interview/title game performance he would have said he had a change of heart. No reason to throw a big bucket of controversy on your career before it has even started. People would respect what you claim to know for a fact more than what he did. You're telling me the kid lied despite the truth being the easier way out? That doesn't make any sense at all. What makes you so sure of this? Do you have some sort of information I'm not aware of on the situation?Crimson streak;1364116 wrote:I'm saying anzalone is using it as an excuse. He was gone regardless if bk interviewed or not. As for the money thing, like I said maybe the ad was playing hard ball with him about it and this was the step he needed to take to make sure his assistants don't leave and get paid like they deserve to. And you know how agents are when it comes to a new contract. They try anything possible to get you the most money
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jan 11, 2013 10:50pm
My buddy had a good point. This Anzalone thing is just karma coming back around for Gunner Kiel last year.