2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

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Apr 26, 2013 1:37pm
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Apr 26, 2013 3:45pm
Drawing a blank..remind me again why we don't have a 2nd round pick?
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Apr 26, 2013 3:53pm
SportsAndLady;1434487 wrote:Drawing a blank..remind me again why we don't have a 2nd round pick?

Josh Gordon
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Apr 26, 2013 4:04pm
hangonsloopy;1434494 wrote:Josh Gordon

Ah. Thanks
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Apr 26, 2013 4:18pm
ESPN's Eric Mangini talking about the value of 2nd rounders right now...#Browns fans are just shaking their heads at the irony
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Apr 26, 2013 4:19pm
Looking at what's available what do you guys think: was the 2nd rounder on Gordon worth it?

To me it was.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:21pm
hangonsloopy;1434494 wrote:Josh Gordon
And WELL worth it IMO. He's looking like a steal at that value, as long as he keeps his head on straight and works hard...
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Apr 26, 2013 4:22pm
lhslep134;1434509 wrote:Looking at what's available what do you guys think: was the 2nd rounder on Gordon worth it?

To me it was.
Absolutely, I think Gordon was a GREAT value for a 2nd rounder.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:22pm
lhslep134;1434509 wrote:Looking at what's available what do you guys think: was the 2nd rounder on Gordon worth it?

To me it was.
Have to think if Gordon played in college last season he'd be a top WR in this draft. Maybe taken instead of Patterson last night. So we got a late first round player with our second rounder. Seems to be OK value to me.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:35pm
I think Gordon was definitely worth it. I would have been nice to get a second pick back, but basically our 2nd round pick this year already has 1 year of NFL experience.

Could the Browns put in a 3rd round bid last year and still get him?
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Apr 26, 2013 4:37pm
mucalum49;1434513 wrote:Have to think if Gordon played in college last season he'd be a top WR in this draft. Maybe taken instead of Patterson last night. So we got a late first round player with our second rounder. Seems to be OK value to me.
I heard during talks about the supplemental draft that Gordon would've been a top 8 pick in this year's draft. Gordon has 7 inches on Tavon Austin, 50 lbs, and still runs a 4.4 40-yard dash with a 36 inch vertical. Hard to believe with another year of college under his belt that he wouldn't have been the first WR off the board.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:37pm
like_that;1434518 wrote:I think Gordon was definitely worth it. I would have been nice to get a second pick back, but basically our 2nd round pick this year already has 1 year of NFL experience.

Could the Browns put in a 3rd round bid last year and still get him?
We'll never know.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:42pm
like_that;1434518 wrote:I think Gordon was definitely worth it. I would have been nice to get a second pick back, but basically our 2nd round pick this year already has 1 year of NFL experience.

Could the Browns put in a 3rd round bid last year and still get him?
I agree, in all honesty, the offensive skill-position talent in this years draft class is significantly below average IMO. No RB's taken, 1 QB taken, and 2 WRs taken. The supplemental pick of Gordon is quite possibly the single greatest decision the previous regime made.
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Apr 26, 2013 4:56pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1434523 wrote:I agree, in all honesty, the offensive skill-position talent in this years draft class is significantly below average IMO. No RB's taken, 1 QB taken, and 2 WRs taken. The supplemental pick of Gordon is quite possibly the single greatest decision the previous regime made.

Agreed. I'd make that decision 50 times out of 50 times.
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Apr 26, 2013 6:18pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1434520 wrote:I heard during talks about the supplemental draft that Gordon would've been a top 8 pick in this year's draft. Gordon has 7 inches on Tavon Austin, 50 lbs, and still runs a 4.4 40-yard dash with a 36 inch vertical. Hard to believe with another year of college under his belt that he wouldn't have been the first WR off the board.
It would have depended on his production, interviews, etc. Carlton Mitchell had all of the physical attributes too.

If you would rather have a 2nd rounder than Gordon you're crazy though.
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Apr 26, 2013 6:46pm
The Gordon pick may turn out to be one of the best since the return of the Browns. Definitely worth a second.
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Apr 26, 2013 6:59pm
Mulva;1434194 wrote:I think Gio Bernard is going to be the best RB.
And he goes to the Bengals. Fantastic.
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Apr 26, 2013 6:59pm
Bess to Browns is done. Lombardi is showing us how smart he is.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:07pm
What did we give up for Bess?
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Apr 26, 2013 7:09pm
Commander of Awesome;1434574 wrote:Bess to Browns is done. Lombardi is showing us how smart he is.

Is that sarcasm?

It probably is..never seen a move you've actually liked Coa.

Ill wait to see what/who we gave up before I make my judgment however.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:12pm
SportsAndLady;1434590 wrote:Is that sarcasm?

It probably is..never seen a move you've actually liked Coa.

Ill wait to see what/who we gave up before I make my judgment however.
I agree, Bess can definitely be a contributor, both on offense and special teams as a returner.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:13pm
SportsAndLady;1434590 wrote:
It probably is..never seen a move you've actually liked Coa.
Krueger, Groves, Bryant, Phil Taylor, Alex Mack, Joe Thomas.

All moves I liked. The Falcons trade, I love that.

Hell even the Nelson signing I liked.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:16pm
One thing pointed about about Bess on Twitter is that it moves Benjamin to ST. Where he'll focus on returning.
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Apr 26, 2013 7:24pm
Commander of Awesome;1434598 wrote:One thing pointed about about Bess on Twitter is that it moves Benjamin to ST. Where he'll focus on returning.

Bess is a very solid possession guy. He will make a killing on 3rd down
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Apr 26, 2013 7:27pm
Bess is sure handed and gets open consistently, also money on third down.