derek bomar
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Apr 26, 2013 8:25am
that's not really my point. If you're not a consensus top 10 you shouldn't be invited. They invited 20 something dudes. It's a clown show.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 26, 2013 8:26am
Not really that impressed with Lacy. He had a pretty damn slow 40 time for a RB.
Mulva
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Apr 26, 2013 8:36am
I think Gio Bernard is going to be the best RB.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 9:23am
I don't think there were too many "mocks" that had him out of the 1st but I did hear the "he's not 1st round talent" from a few of these analysts. I heard a comment yesterday about him that would make one pause and think..."where would Geno have gone if he were in LAST years draft, with that QB pool?" The answer would probably be "3rd round" (or lower).IggyPride00;1434187 wrote:On Geno I don't think I saw a single mock that had him fall out of round 1. Usually the league polls teams supposedly to figure out who to invite. Clearly they got bad information.
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BoatShoes
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Apr 26, 2013 9:42am
Does anyone know why Shariff Floyd dropped so much??
Part of me liked the idea of getting Milliner and having Milliner/Hayden be the new Dixon/Minnifield dynamic duo but I don't think u take him at 6 with the injury concerns.
I really wanted Chance Warmack but am happy with the Mingo pick. He has to at least pan out better than Courtney Brown Right???
Part of me liked the idea of getting Milliner and having Milliner/Hayden be the new Dixon/Minnifield dynamic duo but I don't think u take him at 6 with the injury concerns.
I really wanted Chance Warmack but am happy with the Mingo pick. He has to at least pan out better than Courtney Brown Right???
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 10:15am
Sure it's been mentioned but our front 7 looks pretty damn good. They'd better have a friggin awesome pass rush with that secondary though.
like_that
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Apr 26, 2013 10:16am
Rob ChudzinskiBR1986FB;1434243 wrote:Sure it's been mentioned but our front 7 looks pretty damn good. They'd better have a friggin awesome pass rush with that secondary though.
(On if a pass rusher helps the back end of the defense as well)- "Absolutely, it all starts with pass rush in this league. Like I mentioned before, you have to be able to get after the passer and affect him in that way. There are too many good quarterbacks and if they can drop back, they can still beat good corners because they still have time to throw and they're accurate. Trying to affect the quarterback with a pass rush, helps your back end significantly."
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 10:35am
Kind of what I was getting at. Pittsburgh & New England have had crappy secondaries but their pass rush often makes up for it. Giants run a 4-3 but their pass rush the last time they won the SB covered up some serious secondary blemishes.like_that;1434244 wrote:Rob Chudzinski
(On if a pass rusher helps the back end of the defense as well)- "Absolutely, it all starts with pass rush in this league. Like I mentioned before, you have to be able to get after the passer and affect him in that way. There are too many good quarterbacks and if they can drop back, they can still beat good corners because they still have time to throw and they're accurate. Trying to affect the quarterback with a pass rush, helps your back end significantly."
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 26, 2013 11:14am
Shread is going NO WHERE. Mingo is a 3rd down player right now and really needs to bulk up. We need sheard for this season plus he's been transitioning very well. Factor in Groves being a dumb fuck and possibly cut that leaves us bare at OLBer. Rubin is the only one that I could possibly see being moved, but doubt it as we don't have the DE depth to move him. He wont be on our team with his current contract next season though.BR1986FB;1434176 wrote:Wanted Warmack but I'm cool with Mingo.
LOL'ing at the Geno freefall (where he belongs). Heard him on Sirius yesterday expecting to be taken "top 5."
Regardless of what they are spewing and Groves' situation, I still think they recoup that 2nd today by trading Sheard (maybe Rubin). I know you can supposedly "never have enough pass rushers" but there's way too many cooks in the kitchen at OLB and only two of them can play at once.
I think Cincy did very well, Baltimore did "meh/ok" and the Browns/Steelers have the biggest "boom/bust" potential players.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 11:20am
Durkie back on this thread?
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 11:51am
Anyone else feel like Mingo pick was Wimbley over Ngata all over again?
Ty Webb
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Apr 26, 2013 12:00pm
Totally agreeCommander of Awesome;1434323 wrote:Anyone else feel like Mingo pick was Wimbley over Ngata all over again?
Mulva
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Apr 26, 2013 12:02pm
Does rubin have any trade value? I wouldn't deal him to get a 5th back.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 26, 2013 12:04pm
Ty Webb;1434332 wrote:Totally agree
Welp. You're now wrong coa.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 12:04pm
Not really. He's getting a bit older with a big contract. Plus its not like he's a sack monster. Has more value to the Browns than to other organizations.Mulva;1434333 wrote:Does rubin have any trade value? I wouldn't deal him to get a 5th back.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 12:05pm
Yeah just saw. Glad to be wrong.SportsAndLady;1434335 wrote:Welp. You're now wrong coa.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 26, 2013 12:05pm
LOL no. You need to get over that draft. It clouds your judgement. In fact if you need help getting over it, just look at the guy who agreed with you...Commander of Awesome;1434323 wrote:Anyone else feel like Mingo pick was Wimbley over Ngata all over again?
Based on gibby's knowledge (see: lack of) I take comfort in this.Ty Webb;1434332 wrote:Totally agree
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 12:07pm
Would love to meet Savage in person to personally PWN him for that POS draft.like_that;1434339 wrote:LOL no. You need to get over that draft. It clouds your judgement. In fact if you need help getting over it, just look at the guy who agreed with you...
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 12:17pm
How so? When Wimbley/Ngata happened, there were two guys they really wanted. Last night Dion Jordan was gone which left Mingo. Unless you're comparing the Wimbley/Ngata situation to Mingo/Jarvis Jones, which isn't even close.Commander of Awesome;1434323 wrote:Anyone else feel like Mingo pick was Wimbley over Ngata all over again?
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vball10set
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Apr 26, 2013 12:20pm
No, I really don't. I wanted either Mingo or Floyd, 'cause imo we need to put more pressure on the qb to give our lb's and db's more of a chance to make plays, and these guys seem to get after qb's. Obviously, time will tell, and I hope like hell you're wrongCommander of Awesome;1434323 wrote:Anyone else feel like Mingo pick was Wimbley over Ngata all over again?
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 12:21pm
No BR, Mingo is Wimbley and Star is Ngata in this situation. Star has been compared to Ngata the most through out the draft process.BR1986FB;1434345 wrote:How so? When Wimbley/Ngata happened, there were two guys they really wanted. Last night Dion Jordan was gone which left Mingo. Unless you're comparing the Wimbley/Ngata situation to Mingo/Jarvis Jones, which isn't even close.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 12:26pm
Kind of skeptical that Star would've been their top target at 6.Commander of Awesome;1434351 wrote:No BR, Mingo is Wimbley and Star is Ngata in this situation. Star has been compared to Ngata the most through out the draft process.
Commander of Awesome
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Apr 26, 2013 12:27pm
Not so much the Browns target, just that Star will produce and become a Pro Bowler while Mingo is a bum.BR1986FB;1434355 wrote:Kind of skeptical that Star would've been their top target at 6.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2013 12:31pm
Then the same could be said about Miami/Dion Jordan, Detroit/Ziggy Ansah & Pittsburgh/Jarvis Jones who all also passed on Star. A lot of people passed on Tom Brady too.Commander of Awesome;1434358 wrote:Not so much the Browns target, just that Star will produce and become a Pro Bowler while Mingo is a bum.
lhslep134
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Apr 26, 2013 12:32pm
IMO you're reaching too much to attempt to show your frustration with the Wimbley pick. Understandable, but unnecessary.Commander of Awesome;1434358 wrote:Not so much the Browns target, just that Star will produce and become a Pro Bowler while Mingo is a bum.
I just hope Mingo pans out, because I'm fine with the thought process of taking a front 7 player. A good rush is more effective against the pass than a good secondary, ask the Giants.