lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:22pm
Wilson could still be faster than Ginn on the football field. There's track speed which is straightline and football speed which takes into account agility.Scarlet_Buckeye;1486873 wrote:Because admitting that "someone" is as fast, or faster, than Ginn is like saying...
... some other track athlete(s) is as fast, or faster, than Bolt.
Sure there's other track athletes who have beaten Bolt / might be on his level, but for the most part, the majority of the population is simply behind him.
People aren't giving props to just how fast Ginn truly was. Not saying "no one" is as fast, or faster, than Ginn... rather, just trying to say Ginn's speed in college was probably the 97% percentile, if not higher. Give the man his due/respect.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 14, 2013 1:26pm
lhslep134;1486881 wrote:Quarterback is just a bit different than a WR. Guess that distinguishable difference doesn't mean anything to you though.
Except that Ginn is 5'10 180. He is a finesse speedster. He isn't the guy that you throw the ball 6 yards to on 3rd and 9 and hope he powers through guys.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:27pm
To be honest it was much more perplexing than anger inducing. I'm not disagreeing with you and pick who have no problem with one of our more important players taking fewer hits.Automatik;1486807 wrote:I guess I just didn't notice. I was mainly focusing on him burning defenders to the end zone.
He's small anyway, I'm cool with it.
It was just so weird to see him go out of bounds 3 or 4 yards before a defender would have touched him. Most players would sneak out right before contact, not 3 yards before.
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2009/11/is_this_the_start_of_the_end_f.html
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dolphins/joerose/2010/01/sam_madison_takes_shot_at_ted.html
I'm going to look for some video proof of what I'm saying."He dodges tacklers," Madison said. "Instead of delivering the blow, he's running away from it. That's going to get him in bad situations. When you catch the ball, you have to have bad intentions. If you look at a guy like Hines Ward, when he catches the ball he's turning around and looking up. Ted Ginn is usually catching the ball running backwards and slipping and falling. You may be able to run through one of those tackles or the defensive back may miss or fall down and then you can use your speed. But he's always ducking and dodging."
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:27pm
That wasn't my point. My point was that I'd much rather have my QB going out of bounds than a WR, which was in response to Pick.LJ;1486888 wrote:Except that Ginn is 5'10 180. He is a finesse speedster. He isn't the guy that you throw the ball 6 yards to on 3rd and 9 and hope he powers through guys.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 14, 2013 1:28pm
Who's faster, Ginn or Wilson...does it really matter? They're both fucking fast!

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 14, 2013 1:31pm
It doesnt take a law student to notice the distinguishable difference between a WR and a QB. There isnt a distinguishable difference between the value each provided to their team.lhslep134;1486881 wrote:Quarterback is just a bit different than a WR. Guess that distinguishable difference doesn't mean anything to you though.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:34pm
There isn't a distinguishable difference between the value of Braxton and Ted Ginn??? Are you f*cking serious? That might be the most stupid thing I've read on this site.Pick6;1486897 wrote:There isnt a distinguishable difference between the value each provided to their team.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 14, 2013 1:40pm
They were both top playmakers on the team was my point. Was not comparing their actual skill level to one another. Not surprised a little bitch like you blows the statement out of proportion, though.lhslep134;1486903 wrote:There isn't a distinguishable difference between the value of Braxton and Ted Ginn??? Are you f*cking serious? You are so dumb I'm done responding to you. That might be one of the most incredibly stupid things I've read on this site.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:42pm
you were comparing their VALUE, which makes you look even worse.Pick6;1486908 wrote: Was not comparing their actual skill level to one another.
Okay now I'm done responding to you.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 14, 2013 1:43pm
We're talking about Ohio State Ted Ginn, not Miami Ted Ginn.lhslep134;1486889 wrote:To be honest it was much more perplexing than anger inducing. I'm not disagreeing with you and pick who have no problem with one of our more important players taking fewer hits.
It was just so weird to see him go out of bounds 3 or 4 yards before a defender would have touched him. Most players would sneak out right before contact, not 3 yards before.
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2009/11/is_this_the_start_of_the_end_f.html
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dolphins/joerose/2010/01/sam_madison_takes_shot_at_ted.html
I'm going to look for some video proof of what I'm saying.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 1:45pm
My point is he didn't change the way he played football between OSU and Miami. He still went out of bounds too early.se-alum;1486913 wrote:We're talking about Ohio State Ted Ginn, not Miami Ted Ginn.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 14, 2013 2:37pm
My cares have been exceeded on this particular subject.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Aug 14, 2013 3:47pm
Except there weren't many (if any) who were faster than Ginn on the football field.lhslep134;1486884 wrote:Wilson could still be faster than Ginn on the football field. There's track speed which is straightline and football speed which takes into account agility.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 14, 2013 4:13pm
Ginn is probably the fastest I've seen in pads playing college football.Scarlet_Buckeye;1487000 wrote:Except there weren't many (if any) who were faster than Ginn on the football field.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 4:29pm
Most definitely. I was just saying you can't dismiss the possibility that Wilson could be as fast as Ginn on the football field just because Ginn is a faster on a track.Scarlet_Buckeye;1487000 wrote:Except there weren't many (if any) who were faster than Ginn on the football field.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 14, 2013 4:30pm
haha if it wasn't a dead period before football starts I wouldn't care at all.Automatik;1486964 wrote:My cares have been exceeded on this particular subject.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Aug 14, 2013 5:41pm
This.se-alum;1487021 wrote:Ginn is probably the fastest I've seen in pads playing college football.

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Aug 14, 2013 5:47pm
Wow, people are giving Ted Ginn plenty of props on how fast he was. Everyone knows he was blazing fast on the football field and few compared. I'm pretty sure Dontre Wilson is the first Buckeye I've heard people compare to Teddy G since he left. We'll see in 2 and a half weeks if the comparisons are valid, but nobody is acting like TG was just regular fast.Scarlet_Buckeye;1486873 wrote:Because admitting that "someone" is as fast, or faster, than Ginn is like saying...
... some other track athlete(s) is as fast, or faster, than Bolt.
Sure there's other track athletes who have beaten Bolt / might be on his level, but for the most part, the majority of the population is simply behind him.
People aren't giving props to just how fast Ginn truly was. Not saying "no one" is as fast, or faster, than Ginn... rather, just trying to say Ginn's speed in college was probably the 97% percentile, if not higher. Give the man his due/respect.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 14, 2013 11:27pm
TWHPIH is headed to Canada so he can be a huge disappointment internationally after he tanks there too.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 15, 2013 1:18am
Blah, blah, blah. Your schtick is so tired.Tiernan;1487198 wrote:TWHPIH is headed to Canada so he can be a huge disappointment internationally after he tanks there too.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 15, 2013 7:40am
Tiernan;1487198 wrote:TWHPIH is headed to Canada so he can be a huge disappointment internationally after he tanks there too.
repsse-alum;1487210 wrote:Blah, blah, blah. Your schtick is so tired.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 15, 2013 7:43am
Good for Jason WhiteTiernan;1487198 wrote:TWHPIH is headed to Canada so he can be a huge disappointment internationally after he tanks there too.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Aug 15, 2013 8:52am
I laughed.LJ;1487229 wrote:Good for Jason White
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 15, 2013 9:26am
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/08/24651/thursday-skull-session#more
With all the hype and positive vibes swirling as Ohio State prepares for a run at the crystal football, I'm not quite sure we've taken enough time to smirk at our friends to the north.
Thankfully, our friends at MLive.com are a giving bunch as they remind us of the following:
- It's been 3,194 days and counting since Michigan last won at least a share of the B1G title.
- Since Brady Hoke arrived on the scene, his Wolverines are 5-7 on the road.
- The once proud Michigan defense mustered exactly 12 sacks a season ago.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 15, 2013 9:54am
vball10set;1487276 wrote:http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/08/24651/thursday-skull-session#more
Good thing things are changing!