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Dec 8, 2012 10:22 AM
0311sdp;1338365 wrote:Wisconsin with a likeable coach, I wouldn't be able to take it. They were easy to hate with douche bags like Alvarez and Bielema.
I don't think Alvarez was a douche bag? Belema, no doubt. But I never thought Alvarez to be a bad guy.
Dec 8, 2012 10:22am
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Dec 8, 2012 10:34 AM
Heretic;1337440 wrote:Probably more. At least ND is a real program. Colorado might be the worst BCS conference team in the history of the BCS. I mean, the Big East is getting more irrelevant by the day due to the changing landscape in college sports...but Colorado? It'd be better to be a winning coach at a very good minor conference team than there, as you could use the Cincinnati job to propel you to something better than ****ing Colorado...
That's why Gary Barnett is the GOAT. He won a Big10 at Northwestern and then won a Big12 title at Colorado and went to 4 conference championships there. Too bad his players raped that girl player or whatever happened with that
Dec 8, 2012 10:34am
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Dec 8, 2012 11:25 AM
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Dec 8, 2012 12:44 PM
Tuberville to Cincinnati??
Dec 8, 2012 12:44pm
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Dec 8, 2012 12:54 PM
karen lotz;1338523 wrote:Tuberville to Cincinnati??

Dont get it for tommy. But good for uc
Dec 8, 2012 12:54pm
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Dec 8, 2012 12:59 PM
j_crazy;1338526 wrote:Dont get it for tommy. But good for uc

Wow? Good get.

Must be headed out of the Big East??
Dec 8, 2012 12:59pm
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Dec 8, 2012 1:00 PM
If I am Texas Tech, I look at Kliff Klingsbury, an alum who is coaching up Johnny Football at A&M
Dec 8, 2012 1:00pm
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Dec 8, 2012 1:01 PM
That move makes next to zero sense for Tuberville ... but great get for Cincy.
Dec 8, 2012 1:01pm
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Dec 8, 2012 1:08 PM
Tubberville is only 58, maybe Cincy can keep a coach for more than 3 years. Sounds like this is his semi retirement job. City 1 million times better than Lubbock, lower stress schedule, not in Lubbock, decent recruiting, not in Lubbock.
Dec 8, 2012 1:08pm
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Dec 8, 2012 1:11 PM
j_crazy;1338526 wrote:Dont get it for tommy. But good for uc
gorocks99;1338530 wrote:That move makes next to zero sense for Tuberville ... but great get for Cincy.

Anything is better than being in Lubbock Texas
Dec 8, 2012 1:11pm
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Dec 8, 2012 1:18 PM
This is a home run for UC. I'd almost guarantee that Kingsbury is the next coach at TT...
Dec 8, 2012 1:18pm
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Dec 8, 2012 2:22 PM
Is this UC making a move to become more attractive to a Big 12 or some power conference?

They must have convinced Tuberville of something of the sort
Dec 8, 2012 2:22pm
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Dec 8, 2012 2:29 PM
Wow. Apparently, Bobby Petrino may be the offensive coordinator under Tuberville at UC...
Dec 8, 2012 2:29pm
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Dec 8, 2012 2:38 PM
Wow not too often do teams lose a coach going to another school and end up IMO better coaching. That would be great for cincy
Dec 8, 2012 2:38pm
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Dec 8, 2012 3:06 PM
Azubuike24;1338582 wrote:Wow. Apparently, Bobby Petrino may be the offensive coordinator under Tuberville at UC...

UC becomes very intriguing to potential players and conferences
Dec 8, 2012 3:06pm
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Dec 8, 2012 3:10 PM
Nice get. Still the worst former coach of Auburn currently in Ohio, though.
Dec 8, 2012 3:10pm
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Dec 8, 2012 4:41 PM
ts1227;1338581 wrote:Is this UC making a move to become more attractive to a Big 12 or some power conference?

They must have convinced Tuberville of something of the sort
I was thinking along these same lines--other than a boatload of $$$, why would he make this move?
Dec 8, 2012 4:41pm
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Dec 8, 2012 6:11 PM
vball10set;1338622 wrote:I was thinking along these same lines--other than a boatload of $$$, why would he make this move?

That seems to be the big question. Nobody knows
Dec 8, 2012 6:11pm
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Dec 8, 2012 6:12 PM
Probably going to be tl;dr but this was reposted on Ohio State's scout boards from a Texas Tech site.

Tuberville Escapes the Ax

Like just about everybody else, I was floored upon learning that Texas Tech head football coach Tommy Tuberville had accepted the same position with the University of Cincinnati. Tuberville not coaching the Red Raiders in 2013 seemed like a ship that had already sailed.

Live and learn.

Having said that, Tuberville’s departure does make a certain amount of sense. And it bears an eerie resemblance to a Texas Tech coaching episode that occurred some 32 years ago.

The bottom line is that Tuberville left Texas Tech because he felt his career was in serious jeopardy. His Red Raider record was a mediocre 20-17; his Big 12 record was frankly dire; his record in Big 12 home games was even more miserable, and his last two teams absolutely tanked down the stretch. Factor in a series of Big 12 games in which the Red Raiders were not even remotely competitive, and it is easy to see why Tuberville felt he was on shaky ground.

Tuberville doubtless eyed his probable lot in Lubbock when considering the position at the University of Cincinnati. To begin with, his contract had not been extended. Tuberville assuredly viewed the lack of an extension as a vote of no confidence if not an actual threat of termination.

And then there was the team he was coaching and the lay of the Big 12 landscape. Did Tuberville have strong reason to believe he would turn the corner in 2013 and thus salvage his job and career? Probably not.

In looking at his roster Tuberville saw gaping holes in the offensive line and a secondary decimated by graduation. LaAdrian Waddle, Deveric Gallington, Terry McDaniel, Cornelius Douglas, Eugene Neboh, Cody Davis and D. J. Johnson were going to be very difficult to replace.

Particularly when confronted by yet another rugged Big 12 slate.

In looking at the Big 12, it is patently obvious that Baylor and TCU are on the upswing. Oklahoma is Oklahoma, Kansas State is not about to fall off the face of the earth, and Oklahoma State and Texas have bedeviled Texas Tech as long as anybody cares to remember. At first blush, only Kansas, Iowa State and West Virginia look like probable conference wins next year, and two of those games will be on the road.

I believe Tommy Tuberville made a simple calculation. He plugged in all the factors and decided it was unlikely the Red Raiders would do well enough in 2013 to save his job. He thus avoided the sword of Damocles by accepting a job where he would get a fresh start, a clean slate, and another three years to resurrect his career. He would also be coaching in a conference far less formidable than the Big 12.

Another Texas Tech football coach faced circumstances such as this, arrived at the same conclusion, and chose an identical course. I speak of one Rex Dockery.

Like Tuberville, Rex Dockery coached at Tech for three seasons (1978-80). Like Tuberville, Dockery compiled a 54-percent winning mark. Like Tuberville (from Camden, Arkansas), Dockery was from a small southern city (Cleveland, Tennessee). Like Tuberville, Dockery took over when the Red Raider program was on a hot streak. Thus, Texas Tech had a winning percentage of 64 in the eight years prior to Dockery’s arrival; it had a 69% winning level in the eight years before Tuberville came to the High Plains.

Dockery shocked Raiderland by bolting for Memphis State, which played in something called the Southern Independent Conference, while Tuberville now casts his lot with the rapidly decaying Big East. The parallels are striking to say the least.

Hopefully, Tuberville will fare well in his new position. Texas Tech certainly has a golden opportunity to recapture the momentum lost during the last three seasons. But to do so, the Texas Tech brass must avoid repeating history. After Rex Dockery left Texas Tech, the university replaced him with Jerry Moore. Enough said.
Dec 8, 2012 6:12pm
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Dec 9, 2012 8:50 PM
Two Buckeye assistants are reportedly interviewing for head coaching jobs.

Stan Drayton at Temple (has Philly connections) and Luke Fickell at Kent State.
Dec 9, 2012 8:50pm
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Dec 9, 2012 9:16 PM
Fickell will get the Kent St. job.

Not sure about Drayton
Dec 9, 2012 9:16pm
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Dec 9, 2012 9:52 PM
Pretty sure Withers interviewed at Southern Miss, have they hired anyone yet??
Dec 9, 2012 9:52pm
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Dec 10, 2012 12:37 PM
se-alum;1339459 wrote:Pretty sure Withers interviewed at Southern Miss, have they hired anyone yet??

Don't think so. Haven't heard anything yet
Dec 10, 2012 12:37pm