Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 19, 2012 8:48pm
Well of course there will probably be a QB that turns out better than Weeden. But do you know who it will be? Maybe we should just spend our entire draft on QBs. One is bound to be good lol.SportsAndLady;1325387 wrote:I will bet my life a QB in next year's draft will be better than Weeden.
Weeden isn't good lol idk why I keep hearing this "there's no QB better than Weeden"
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 8:49pm
Pick6;1325395 wrote:I said they are fine when Haden is healthy. Everybody "bumping up" is what causes problems. Reading comprehension is your friend.
They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 19, 2012 8:56pm
Collin kapernick from San Fran is looking legit right now lol. Harbough just does his thing with any qb, its crazy.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:04pm
He's so fun to watch. I've been watching him all year when he gets in.shook_17;1325419 wrote:Collin kapernick from San Fran is looking legit right now lol. Harbough just does his thing with any qb, its crazy.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:05pm
Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan outCrimson streak;1325403 wrote:I bet there won't be. Honestly name 1 qb that is worthy of a top 5 pick this draft. All these qb's have major major flaws. And keep drafting a qb top 5 year after year is no way to build a team at all.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 19, 2012 9:06pm
This is my first time this year, he is making the Bears D look stupid silly.SportsAndLady;1325433 wrote:He's so fun to watch. I've been watching him all year when he gets in.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 19, 2012 9:12pm
Define "top."SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 19, 2012 9:12pm
which is what I said.Crimson streak;1325407 wrote:They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:14pm
Top 12?like_that;1325444 wrote:Define "top."
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 19, 2012 9:14pm
tons of them.SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 9:15pm
SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out
1996,1997,2000,2002,2003,2006,2007 and you could even say 1999, and 2010
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 9:16pm
Pick6;1325446 wrote:which is what I said.
Still need another corner. Brown isn't getting any younger
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 19, 2012 9:17pm
Pick6;1325446 wrote:which is what I said.
Originally Posted by Crimson streak 
They are very average to below average with Haden in. We really need a cover safety that way we can bump ward up to help stop the run which he's good at.
Thats the problem. There isn't a Safety thats top 10 worthy either. The Browns would have to trade down, grab a CB in free agency then your safety with a trade down while recouping our 2nd round pick and then some.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 19, 2012 9:17pm
I'm waiting for someone to delusionally suggest we hire Chip Kelly and trade for Kaepernick to run the spread.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 19, 2012 9:18pm
2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.SportsAndLady;1325448 wrote:Top 12?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 19, 2012 9:22pm
I think the Browns hire Chip Kelly, bring in Kaepernick, trade Richardson for another first round pick, draft black mamba and draft Barner to replace Richardson. Browns go on to win the division 14-2.Mulva;1325455 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to delusionally suggest we hire Chip Kelly and trade for Kaepernick to run the spread.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:24pm
It's a rarity more than it is common.like_that;1325456 wrote:2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 19, 2012 9:26pm
Rotinaj;1325325 wrote:Redskins will EASILY be better than the Browns over the next 3 years. Not sure how you can possibly say otherwise. Unless RG3 suffers a horrible injury.
I like the Browns defense much better. Skins will try to plug in new pieces like they always do with Snyder and continue to be mediocre. Browns have a chance to improve on what they are, I dont think the Skins do...and they arent THAT far ahead of Cleveland as it is.
And RG3 getting injured would absolutely matter. But thats a giant risk you take when you have him as the QB
Rotinaj;1325350 wrote:Serious question here. Who's the last successful nfl QB who had a .500 final year in college? I admit I haven't watched much of Geno but he seems to have disappeared in some big games.
Just a random guess at the first name that popped up into my head. But what were Eli, Rivers and Cutler in their last year? What was Tom Brady? I honestly have no clue, but I know the first 3 play for non-powers in power 6 conferences, so they mightve been mediocre record wise.
Way to many to name. But most notably (at least off the top of my head), 2007 with Quinn and Russell.SportsAndLady;1325434 wrote:Agree to disagree. Name a draft where a top QB didn't pan out
Beat me to it.like_that;1325456 wrote:2007. Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell were the 2 QBs selected in the first round. LOL.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 19, 2012 9:26pm
Let's trade for Colin Kapernick. Dude is a beast.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 9:27pm
So 6 out of the last 12 years isn't the common. It's 50/50 that's not good odds at all
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:28pm
Hasn't happened in 5 years though..when technology, social media, scouting, etc. has all skyrocketed. We'll find a good QB in the top 5.Crimson streak;1325471 wrote:So 6 out of the last 12 years isn't the common. It's 50/50 that's not good odds at all
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 9:29pm
SportsAndLady;1325474 wrote:Hasn't happened in 5 years though..when technology, social media, scouting, etc. has all skyrocketed. We'll find a good QB in the top 5.
2010? Bradford hasn't done shit in the nfl yet
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 19, 2012 9:30pm
You could even say 2011 also even though its too early to tell
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 19, 2012 9:31pm
I assume we will have to wait for Auoita to "finish" his "job" with RG3 tonight, so we can see his fail response.Laley23;1325469 wrote:I like the Browns defense much better. Skins will try to plug in new pieces like they always do with Snyder and continue to be mediocre. Browns have a chance to improve on what they are, I dont think the Skins do...and they arent THAT far ahead of Cleveland as it is.
And RG3 getting injured would absolutely matter. But thats a giant risk you take when you have him as the QB
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 19, 2012 9:32pm
Ok well that's pretty tough considering there was 2 QBs taken in the first 47 picks lolCrimson streak;1325475 wrote:2010? Bradford hasn't done shit in the nfl yet
Bradford isn't a stud, but he's still better than Weeden (and younger).