Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 6, 2012 9:43pm
MSNBC just called New Hampshire for Obama
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2012 9:43pm
According to King, Florida's remaining precincts traditionally vote Democrat
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 6, 2012 9:44pm
I don't think Romney can win without both Florida and Ohio
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 6, 2012 9:45pm
Obama wins. Socialism here we come.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 6, 2012 9:45pm
At least if Romney loses FL we won't have to sit around and wait on OH for 10 days. Of course there's going to be an auto-recount in FL
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 6, 2012 9:47pm
Pretty much. Historic day the country was lost for good. Europe here we come. Four more years of suckitude and a Repub might have a shot, but if you can't beat Obama with this record good luck winning another election. At least as long as the media is in the bag.sleeper;1314571 wrote:Obama wins. Socialism here we come.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Nov 6, 2012 9:52pm
yea it is over and in all reality it is not even going to be close. It is a bit depressing that the country is wanting to go this blue.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2012 9:56pm
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 6, 2012 9:56pm
Ehhh....They can raise my taxes, I'll just tip lesspmoney25;1314577 wrote:yea it is over and in all reality it is not even going to be close. It is a bit depressing that the country is wanting to go this blue.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2012 9:57pm
It's really not a surprise. If you like Obama's policies and positions, why wouldn't you vote for Obama instead of the white guy that holds the same positions and proposes the same policies? Maybe next time the Republicans will offer a real choice.pmoney25;1314577 wrote:yea it is over and in all reality it is not even going to be close. It is a bit depressing that the country is wanting to go this blue.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Nov 6, 2012 9:57pm
This is a nightmare.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 6, 2012 9:57pm
If Obama does end up winning, I guarantee that 4 more years of his administration the American people will be desperate for a change. They thought Bush was bad, just wait. No consequences for Obama, he can do whatever he wants now.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 6, 2012 9:59pm
Yippee looks like Obama will win thanks to all the welfare douche fucks and Latinos. Can't wait to pay an arm and a leg for health care and my fiancé to lose her job once her employer goes under
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 6, 2012 10:01pm
can't wait for the Obama executive order tour, coming soon to an issue near you. Why get Congress involved when he can just do it himself?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 6, 2012 10:01pm
I just don't understand, D or R, how one can win the popular vote, but lose the election based on electoral votes. It just doesn't make sense.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Nov 6, 2012 10:02pm
Yeah! He doesn't even have to worry about congress!tk421;1314584 wrote:If Obama does end up winning, I guarantee that 4 more years of his administration the American people will be desperate for a change. They thought Bush was bad, just wait. No consequences for Obama, he can do whatever he wants now.
SMFH.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Nov 6, 2012 10:02pm
Gore won the popular vote, but lost the election to Bush in 2000.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 6, 2012 10:03pm
because key states have large populations of a certain party. Why vote when your vote doesn't count? If you live in a battleground state in the boonies and you have a large city near you, what's the point in voting when the state is going to go to the other party?
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 6, 2012 10:04pm
not when he can issue executive orders and have his departments do what he wants. I'll give you a for instance. Say gun control, obviously Dems would love to ban guns outright, but that won't fly in Congress. He can have the EPA ban lead bullets and other components needed for guns, presto back door gun control. If you can't get anything to shoot out of them, guns become pretty useless.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1314589 wrote:Yeah! He doesn't even have to worry about congress!
SMFH.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 6, 2012 10:04pm
tk421;1314591 wrote:because key states have large populations of a certain party. Why vote when your vote doesn't count? If you live in a battleground state in the boonies and you have a large city near you, what's the point in voting when the state is going to go to the other party?
Always wondered this
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Nov 6, 2012 10:05pm
If you went strictly by popular vote, you give to much voting power to the highly populated areas. Though lately, it seems to back fire.ernest_t_bass;1314588 wrote:I just don't understand, D or R, how one can win the popular vote, but lose the election based on electoral votes. It just doesn't make sense.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 6, 2012 10:05pm
Getting very tight in Ohio, and Florida is crazy close. Romney simply has to prevail in VA, FL, and OH
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2012 10:06pm
Because the popular vote doesn't elect the president. The states do. Each state decides how their electors are chosen and vote. This is a republic, not a democracy. The national popular vote is meaningless. States decide how they will cast their vote for president.ernest_t_bass;1314588 wrote:I just don't understand, D or R, how one can win the popular vote, but lose the election based on electoral votes. It just doesn't make sense.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 6, 2012 10:07pm
You're going to take out your political frustrations on minimum wage workers?gut;1314581 wrote:Ehhh....They can raise my taxes, I'll just tip less
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2012 10:07pm
tk421;1314591 wrote:because key states have large populations of a certain party. Why vote when your vote doesn't count? If you live in a battleground state in the boonies and you have a large city near you, what's the point in voting when the state is going to go to the other party?
I know this is the case and I'm not sure I would suggest a change to popular vote... But what about now? Ohio and a handful of other states received 90% of the attention from candidates.